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Re: AI is a technology not a product

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Agreed. The ideal implementation of AI for Apple is probably to finally make Siri work. This isn’t necessary fancy, just let me set some calendar events without knowing the magic words or tell it to open Overcast and play the new Gastropod episode. Better yet, for power users, let me set up reusable shortcuts using natural language. The most important part of this is it doesn’t necessarily feel like AI. The user does…

I felt the same way about NFT's. Its a cool protocol. Theres some cool stuff that could hypothetically be built on the protocol. Selling people NFT's felt like trying to sell someone a TCP or a DNS. The protocol is not the product lmao.

Re: AI is a technology not a product

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> Voice is actually not a very good UI for most things Agreed. But it is a good UI for some things, and which things is probably situation and user specific. Many people’s frustration with Siri is that many of the things it should be good at based on their decision to try , Siri cannot do.

Voice is only good in the context of something that is high priority(e.g talking to a customer service agent) / highly satisfactory (e.g talking to a friend in real time). Otherwise humans hate that interface.

Setting aside the blind and others with challenges for whom voice has the potential to be (if it isn’t already) a magical interface, I find it great for my HomePod for very narrow use cases. Wake me at 7am. Tell me the weather forecast for the weekend. Have I received any new messages?

Re: AI is a technology not a product

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"Better how"? If you're going to dismiss a comment, you better address the points they are making, like: > I was reading article recently that said that a majority of people interviewed did not want to use AI agents simply because they didn't have much stuff in their life worth automating. Or more to the point, a lot of people actually enjoy making grocery lists, planning trips, picking out gifts for friends, etc. Th…

Better how?! It's obvious how doing less work to figure out your transportation is a better user experience. And again, that's just a trivial example. If people like making grocery lists, that's fine, but I bet there's other things they might consider drudgery that could be automated.

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Re: AI is a technology not a product

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Steve already gave away the secret [1] (must watch) a long time ago: "You have to work backwards from the customer experience." AI was never going to be on Apple's roadmap in a significant way because it's in their DNA to differentiate technology from products. [1] https://youtu.be/oeqPrUmVz-o?si=ndUU1H5D3pNifWss

"You have to work backwards from the customer experience." answer... ditch phone/screen, just have an earpod you talk to.

“Take the flexible, rich method of conveying information, and replace it with a slower, jankier, more limited and more rigid form!”

Sounds heinous, please never design the UX for a product I’ve got to use.

Re: AI is a technology not a product

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Agreed. The ideal implementation of AI for Apple is probably to finally make Siri work. This isn’t necessary fancy, just let me set some calendar events without knowing the magic words or tell it to open Overcast and play the new Gastropod episode. Better yet, for power users, let me set up reusable shortcuts using natural language. The most important part of this is it doesn’t necessarily feel like AI. The user does…

> This isn’t necessary fancy, just let me set some calendar events without knowing the magic words or tell it to open Overcast and play the new Gastropod episode. Better yet, for power users, let me set up reusable shortcuts using natural language. Isn’t this the proverbial ”faster horse”? Ie let me do exactly what I can do now, in a very slightly different, possibly very slightly more convenient way?

No, it's asking for my two-legged horse to have four legs

Re: AI is a technology not a product

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Apple is smart to avoid betting the farm on generative AI based on large language models, which is really what we mean by 'AI' here. It costs a lot to create and to run, nobody is willing to pay enough to cover those costs, and when that financial reality hits, it's going to take the knees out from under some major corporations.

Maybe Apple will buy Nvidia. That would be a useful vertical integration.

Re: AI is a technology not a product

#148

Apple is smart to avoid betting the farm on generative AI based on large language models, which is really what we mean by 'AI' here. It costs a lot to create and to run, nobody is willing to pay enough to cover those costs, and when that financial reality hits, it's going to take the knees out from under some major corporations. Maybe Apple will buy Nvidia. That would be a useful vertical integration.

> Maybe Apple will buy Nvidia

No chance. Currently Nvidia’s market cap is higher by about 1T.

Re: AI is a technology not a product

#149

Apple is smart to avoid betting the farm on generative AI based on large language models, which is really what we mean by 'AI' here. It costs a lot to create and to run, nobody is willing to pay enough to cover those costs, and when that financial reality hits, it's going to take the knees out from under some major corporations. Maybe Apple will buy Nvidia. That would be a useful vertical integration.

> Maybe Apple will buy Nvidia No chance. Currently Nvidia’s market cap is higher by about 1T.

Turns out NVidia and Apple are direct competitors. Would have never guessed a few years ago.

Re: AI is a technology not a product

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Agreed. The ideal implementation of AI for Apple is probably to finally make Siri work. This isn’t necessary fancy, just let me set some calendar events without knowing the magic words or tell it to open Overcast and play the new Gastropod episode. Better yet, for power users, let me set up reusable shortcuts using natural language. The most important part of this is it doesn’t necessarily feel like AI. The user does…

Earlier today Siri notified me over and over again to message a particular contact on the GMail app. I have no earthly idea why this was important enough to notify me about, I can figure out whether I need to message people. It provided no hints what the contents of the message were supposed to be, or why I might need to message them now instead of some other time. 20yr ago when I worked in an industrial steel fabrication shop, a couple times a week someone would exclaim "shoot the fuckin' engineer that came up with that one!" usually regarding some bone-headed physically impossible weld on a plan or a procedure that would clearly result in an assembly being out of tolerance, but sometimes something more serious like a weak or dangerous design. Now we're well into the "shoot the fuckin' engineer" stage with tech products. Abusing people like this is wrong. Their attention is a finite resource. Their reward centers are vulnerable. Mindlessly pushing the buttons in the psychological control room of vast, diverse, and increasingly stressed populations is a profoundly stupid idea. If we're not careful somebody is actually going to start shooting the engineers. Would they be wrong to? I don't think the backlash against this shit is going to be small or subtle, and I'm honestly afraid to be associated with this industry right now. Y'all are playing with fire in the most reckless, clueless, thoughtless, and callous fashion. Be better. Stat.
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