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You’d love Canada and the US. Nothing but slow travel on trains.

No one takes the train in the US because they don't go anywhere you need to go and aren't nice to be on.

They are also simply too expensive that's why no one takes them imo.

Why spend $2,500-$5,000 and your trip takes ~30+ hours when you can spend $650 and get there in a few hours via flying

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You’d love Canada and the US. Nothing but slow travel on trains.

No one takes the train in the US because they don't go anywhere you need to go and aren't nice to be on.

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The ashtrays are there, even today, because it is suspected that this flight [0] went down when someone disposed a cigarette butt in the lavatory trash, causing a fire. A reminder that aviation regulations are written in blood. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varig_Flight_820

> A reminder that aviation regulations are written in blood. It's enormously expensive for an airframe manufacturer to deal with the fallout of a crash. There aren't any engineers in an airframe manufacturer willing to sign off on a faulty design. Some good engineers are so worried about that they get shifted to working on conceptual projects. I took a loooong time for Boeing to convince the FAA that a twin engine je…

> took a loooong time for Boeing to convince the FAA that a twin engine jet was safer than a 4 engine for ocean crossings

I don't believe they convinced the FAA twin is safer, just that it meets the necessary safety margins. Airlines want them to meet that regulation for fuel efficiency, but I'd want a source that they're actually safe-er, instead of simply safe enough

Re: Hindenburg’s Smoking Room

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You might enjoy Hardspace: Shipbreaker. I assure you pressure differentials will be life or death!

Fyi, you appear to be shadowbanned and it's not clear why. You might consider sending an email to admin to work that out?

Post above you shows fine here. It's not grayed out or anything.

Re: Hindenburg’s Smoking Room

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post #105

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The ashtrays are there, even today, because it is suspected that this flight [0] went down when someone disposed a cigarette butt in the lavatory trash, causing a fire. A reminder that aviation regulations are written in blood. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varig_Flight_820

> A reminder that aviation regulations are written in blood. It's enormously expensive for an airframe manufacturer to deal with the fallout of a crash. There aren't any engineers in an airframe manufacturer willing to sign off on a faulty design. Some good engineers are so worried about that they get shifted to working on conceptual projects. I took a loooong time for Boeing to convince the FAA that a twin engine je…

Not necessarily safer but safe enough. A modern 4 engine jet should still be safer than the 2 engine equivalent

Re: Hindenburg’s Smoking Room

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What adverse health implications from vaping are there?

Still being studied, but the idea that it’s safe seems to be a very odd default. https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/e-cigarettes/health-effects.html Why would your default assumption be that putting foreign (and poorly regulated) substances into your lungs is more likely than not safe? This is especially true since it’s a drug that doesn’t even have much claim to fame for positive recreational or medicinal benefits.

The vast majority of that CDC information page is about the health effects of nicotine itself. There's a relative lack of specific information about the health risks of the vapor. "Cancer-causing chemicals" is vague (I live in California, I see prop 65 signs all over the place, I ignore them like every good Californian). "Heavy metals" is also vague - is the amount of tin that I might inhale via vaping actually a problem? Is it significantly more than if I lived in an area with a tin mine or something?

I'm not claiming that vaping is safe in some absolute sense, it wouldn't be surprising if there are some meaningful health risks. I personally do not vape myself because the times I've tried it, I've found getting the vapor into my lungs to be very uncomfortable. But it does seem like it's a strict health improvement over tobacco smoke, given that the CDC can't articulate a specific harm to the lungs caused by vaping.

Re: Hindenburg’s Smoking Room

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Back in the 50's tonsillectomies were a regular rite of passage for kids, especially in colder places where kids spent more time indoors exposed to smoke. A couple years after moving from Maiibu to Toronto, I had the surgery.

That wasn't because of smoke, though. It was common, in part, because antibiotics weren't nearly as good and in part because medicine wasn't so advanced. Turns out, it's good to keep tonsils in even if they get infected from time to time.

https://www.uclahealth.org/news/article/tonsillectomies-stil...

Re: Hindenburg’s Smoking Room

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post #143

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> A reminder that aviation regulations are written in blood. It's enormously expensive for an airframe manufacturer to deal with the fallout of a crash. There aren't any engineers in an airframe manufacturer willing to sign off on a faulty design. Some good engineers are so worried about that they get shifted to working on conceptual projects. I took a loooong time for Boeing to convince the FAA that a twin engine je…

> took a loooong time for Boeing to convince the FAA that a twin engine jet was safer than a 4 engine for ocean crossings I don't believe they convinced the FAA twin is safer , just that it meets the necessary safety margins . Airlines want them to meet that regulation for fuel efficiency, but I'd want a source that they're actually safe-er , instead of simply safe enough

Boeing proved it safer. The reason is the increased complexity of more engines increased the risk of a major problem.

My source is I was told this by the engineers who where involved.

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No one takes the train in the US because they don't go anywhere you need to go and aren't nice to be on.

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They mean comparatively noone takes long-distance (Amtrak), other than in the northeast, or at least east of KS/TX/OK. They're not talking about commuter rail, obviously lots of people take that.

But if you wanted to travel LA-NY by train that's 67-82hrs with a transfer in Chicago. Compared to 5.5hrs by plane (+ time getting to/from airport and boarding).

Re: Hindenburg’s Smoking Room

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Truly a better time - today we worry about using Rust 'unsafe' too often. They had a smoking room on a hydrogen airship! /j

I imagine the smoking room was partly a safety feature. It was pressurised and located somewhere where hydrogen wouldn't leak. So you now have all of the smokers do it somewhere safe instead of trying to light up in secret somewhere unsafe.
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