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Re: Apple accidentally left Claude.md files Apple Support app

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Post by dawnerd »

throwatdem12311 wrote: post #131
dawnerd wrote: post #121

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I cringe whenever someone suggests to just have an agent review because “it knows code better”. An ai agent wouldn’t catch a lot of things a human would flag. And before someone goes you just need to prompt it better, that’s a huge amount of work for large projects and you’re still essentially begging it to do what you want.

I have not encountered anything more soulcrushing in my entire career than having to spend hours going over LLM generated slop that was vomitted out by a contractor in Pakistan that doesn’t give a shit, to only have the review itself be fed in as a re-prompt, and get the same 2000 line ball of spaghetti back with even more issues and going back and forth until I just give up and approve it. No, AI code review doesn’t…

Yep I’ve had to approve bad code too due to timelines and now our codebase has so much tech debt it doesn’t even matter anymore. And worse, as new people work on the code the LLMs pick up the bad code and it’s been spiraling from there.

Re: Apple accidentally left Claude.md files Apple Support app

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Post by Wowfunhappy »

oceansweep wrote: post #127
Wowfunhappy wrote: post #123

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Actually, could you recommend one? The ones I've found all seem to want subscriptions. I'm okay paying a few dollars for a well done frontend, but an ongoing sub to run an open weights model locally is nuts...

This is one I use with no tracking or ads: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/id6447090616

Thank you! (It looks like you might have posted twice btw!)

Re: Apple accidentally left Claude.md files Apple Support app

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Post by ryandrake »

I wouldn't even think that CLAUDE.md would make it into source control, let alone into the product. I don't AI-code for a living, so I don't know what is considered best practices, but I would think that CLAUDE.md, AGENTS.md, REQUIREMETNS.md, MY_PLAN.md, THIS_STUFF.md, THAT_THING.md, all the instruction/feeder files that drive the AI should not go into source control. Only the actual code that gets compiled.

I look at all those files the same way as IDE configuration cruft--it's workstation-specific configuration that shouldn't even go into source control. I would .gitignore all of those files. Is this not what is done in industry?

EDIT: Wow, thanks for all the replies. Very eye-opening to see what's happening outside of my hobby-experimentation with the technology. I was coming at it with the assumption that 1-2 out of 20 people on the team were using CLAUDE.md, so why have it in source control. But if all 20 people are using it, I can see the benefits. This reply chain has really opened my eyes, thank you HN.

Re: Apple accidentally left Claude.md files Apple Support app

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Post by redwall_hp »

DaiPlusPlus wrote: post #73
wenc wrote: post #44

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Right now Alexa+ and Gemini are objectively better. The best is ChatGPT voice mode. It understands non English words and accents amazingly well, and even though the LLM model isn’t the full fledged one, I can have deep conversations with it for an hour without it missing a beat.

"objectively better" is a subjective statement :) My preference, however, is for a voice-control UX just like I get with my Amazon Echo and "classic" Alexa like I have been for the past 10 years I've been using it: I think I can best describe it as a "voice-driven command-line" just like your OS' CLI shell, which makes its interactions predictable, even if it means I need to "know" what commands are valid in a given…

Siri's one job I care about is doing exactly what I want while I'm driving. I need it to check my text messages, take dictation, start phone calls and deal with music. I don't need to have conversations with it, I need deterministic responses to known commands.

Re: Apple accidentally left Claude.md files Apple Support app

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Post by stevarino »

ryandrake wrote: post #143

I wouldn't even think that CLAUDE.md would make it into source control, let alone into the product. I don't AI-code for a living, so I don't know what is considered best practices, but I would think that CLAUDE.md, AGENTS.md, REQUIREMETNS.md, MY_PLAN.md, THIS_STUFF.md, THAT_THING.md, all the instruction/feeder files that drive the AI should not go into source control. Only the actual code that gets compiled. I look a…

I personally don't have strong experience here , but I would treat them similar to BUILD files and the like - probably in the root directory of a repo but nowhere near the bin/ or build/ directories.

Also it looks like there's a compilation step to these files, which is interesting. The raw file was included, not the environment specific file.

Re: Apple accidentally left Claude.md files Apple Support app

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Post by pbronez »

ryandrake wrote: post #143

I wouldn't even think that CLAUDE.md would make it into source control, let alone into the product. I don't AI-code for a living, so I don't know what is considered best practices, but I would think that CLAUDE.md, AGENTS.md, REQUIREMETNS.md, MY_PLAN.md, THIS_STUFF.md, THAT_THING.md, all the instruction/feeder files that drive the AI should not go into source control. Only the actual code that gets compiled. I look a…

I think it’s more like project-wide code style rules or build instructions.

Re: Apple accidentally left Claude.md files Apple Support app

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Post by fantasizr »

neko_ranger wrote: post #9

So much FUD (and bot replies dogpiling on?) in that thread. It's just a file that specifies some structure for the project. Nothing super secret.

mostly it's a knock on their lack of attention to detail which was sorta jobs' thing. is the culture becoming lax in this new era

Re: Apple accidentally left Claude.md files Apple Support app

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Post by Wowfunhappy »

ryandrake wrote: post #143

I wouldn't even think that CLAUDE.md would make it into source control, let alone into the product. I don't AI-code for a living, so I don't know what is considered best practices, but I would think that CLAUDE.md, AGENTS.md, REQUIREMETNS.md, MY_PLAN.md, THIS_STUFF.md, THAT_THING.md, all the instruction/feeder files that drive the AI should not go into source control. Only the actual code that gets compiled. I look a…

I think it makes sense to include in source control, just as it’s pretty typical to include documentation (such as a readme file) in source control. CLAUDE.md is really just project documentation.
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