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Re: Grok 4.3

#141

So, we have: - claude for corps and gov - codex for devs - grok for what, roleplay, racism? Those are the two things I've ever heard grok associated with around me.

Gemini not being on the list is criminal

Re: Grok 4.3

#142

People are going to hate on Grok because of Musk. However, I do hope they're successful in making a powerful model. We desperately need more competition. I want cheap subsidized AI plans. I hope Meta finally comes around, too. I want those sweet, sweet billionaire subsidized tokens.

Your $200 claude code subscription is a cheap subsidized plan.

You're getting like 40k in tokens a year for $2400. A whole lotta people are about to be sad when they realize they bet their competency on that lasting forever.

Re: Grok 4.3

#143

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Mistral will also tell you how to do ransoms btw from A to Z in automated ways, you are saying they are responsible? I don't get the mix here.

Yes any company generating csam should not be in business as a legitimate entity. Can you send me a link from a reputable enough source where Mistral models have done this? I didn't even realize they were doing image generation.

> Yes any company generating csam should not be in business as a legitimate entity.

At the same time, in this corner of the world, acting Minister for Justice (also known for trying to push through Chat Control), and NGO Save the Children, have been working to make legal the generation of CSAM for law enforcement use. So that would certainly make the industry legitimate, and you would already have a customer.

https://www.justitsministeriet.dk/pressemeddelelse/regeringe...

Re: Grok 4.3

#144

Grok is my favorite model for chatting, and my favorite voice mode. It seems to be the only voice mode that isn't routing to a extremely cheap model (like Haiku), and has been the highest quality out of all the frontier ones. When you subscribe to SuperGrok you can also create a "council" of agents, each with their own system prompt and when you ask something, they will all get asked in parallel to come to a conclusi…

If someone from Grok is reading, don't waste time on these chaff features. The market will eventually deliver better 3rd party solutions to all of these things. There is an audience that isn't interested in these walled garden features and are only interested on intelligence per dollar.

Re: Grok 4.3

#145

It's just at the Chinese levels for coding, so right now it's just a money earing thing for investors. I hope the Cursor guys help them catch up to be closer to frontier models because they badly need help in it.

I hope not. Musk can directly go to hell with his shit.

Nonetheless, the 10 Billion and 60 Billion deal with Cursor is weird as hell. I can only imagine that he wants to throw as much money at all of his shit before the IPO.

He probably wants the training data

Re: Grok 4.3

#146

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On Artifical Analysis it shows only Kimi K2.6 and Mimo V2.5 Pro as better. Those models are 1T parameters total and 30B or 40B active, this might make abliteration impractical. About Musk, yes, there is correspondence. The only confirmed meeting appears to be a 30 minute visit at Epstein's house together with Musk's wife at the time. As for photos you mention, a quick search tells me there is one photo of Musk and Ma…

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Re: Grok 4.3

#147

So, we have: - claude for corps and gov - codex for devs - grok for what, roleplay, racism? Those are the two things I've ever heard grok associated with around me.

I've tried Grok, Gemini and ChatGPT. There have been 2 times now where Gemini and ChatGPT confidently gave me an incorrect answer whereas Grok was correct. I'm now paying for Grok Lite or whatever it is $10 plan. The first question was around setting up timers for a Fox ESS battery in Home Assistant and disconnecting Fox ESS from the cloud. The second was around cornering speed in Sunnypilot and Frogpilot. Somewhat n…

>if an AI is confidently telling you something wrong it's hard to work with.

But they all do that. It just comes with the territory. Grok will absolutely do the same thing another time you try it.

Re: Grok 4.3

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Grok is my favorite model for chatting, and my favorite voice mode. It seems to be the only voice mode that isn't routing to a extremely cheap model (like Haiku), and has been the highest quality out of all the frontier ones. When you subscribe to SuperGrok you can also create a "council" of agents, each with their own system prompt and when you ask something, they will all get asked in parallel to come to a conclusi…

If I sub to SuperGrok, would I be able to use it in Pi agent or in Opencode? This is not clear to me if I can. Do I get an API Key in SuperGrok?

No, no api access for the Grok product. APIs are only via the xAI product.

Re: Grok 4.3

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Ok speed (202.7 tok/s) and value (1.25 -> 2.50) look great, with pretty decent intelligence.

202.7 tok/s is only OK speed? Which providers are you using that are significantly better than that?

Re: Grok 4.3

#150

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not really. there are easy heuristics to filter out bots with good confidence. FWIW i don't see any bots posting anything in my feed

Yes your individual feed isn't really relevant if we talk about the masses, Reddit accounts are for sale quite cheap, HN as well, X too and so-on, it's literally just a matter of means/methodology. If I want today to do 1000 random posts talking about a certain thing, I could .

my individual feed does matter because it shows that it is possible to curate something without bots which is obviously what XAI would do
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