Interesting story about this repo/product/author by cybersecurity researcher Kevin Beaumont: https://cyberplace.social/@GossiTheDog/116454846703138243
got to love how they're trying to hide the links.
VibeVoice: Open-source frontier voice AI
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#142This is not a new model. Also, it hallucinates a lot. Also, it's very heavy and slow in inference. It's also bad in multilingual. Edit: I'm talking purely about speech to text (STT). Not sure about the other things this can do.
I'm shocked, shocked to find that Microsoft takes credit for a slow, unoriginal product that doesn't actually do what it advertises.
Imagine the balls it took to willingly attach the Microsoft label to the front of the product that is Teams.
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#143Shouldn't it be called something like "Copilot Voice"?
That's not confusing enough. It should be just Copilot.
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#144Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I care that I know what I can DO with the project when I see it described as "open source". Yes, the first of which is that you should be able to build it from source. Which requires the source code, and in this case data.
The OSI's take on this is that an open source model can be modified through fine-tuning etc, even if you can't rebuild it from scratch. The problem with requiring "build from scratch" for open source models is that the number of interesting models with training data that can be openly licensed is close to zero. If you trained your model on an unlicensed scrape of the web you can't release the data under an open sourc…
> The OSI's take on this is that an open source model can be modified through fine-tuning etc, even if you can't rebuild it from scratch.
By this definition almost any binary can be "open source" since hex editors exist. (Or more usefully, you can use ghidra et al. to do more interesting changes.) I know GPL has a very specific view of things, but I'd like to quote an excerpt that I think is generally applicable from https://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-3.0.html -
> The “source code” for a work means the preferred form of the work for making modifications to it. “Object code” means any non-source form of a work.
Which is why I'm fine with "open weights", because that's saying the object code is under an open license.
> The problem with requiring "build from scratch" for open source models is that the number of interesting models with training data that can be openly licensed is close to zero.
So? If the number of open source models is zero, then the number of open source models is zero.
Re: VibeVoice: Open-source frontier voice AI
#145This is not a new model. Also, it hallucinates a lot. Also, it's very heavy and slow in inference. It's also bad in multilingual. Edit: I'm talking purely about speech to text (STT). Not sure about the other things this can do.
Saved a lot of my time thanks!
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#146What the do they mean by frontier voice
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#147Earlier quoted context omitted.
you saved us a lot of time here.... i unstarred the repo moving on....
I don't really pay attention to stars. Do people use them as bookmarks? Why would you star a repo if you knew so little about it?
I exclusively use stars as bookmarks which is why I always found it strange when people talked about lots of stars meaning high quality or trustworthy…I’ve learned since then that I’m probably in the minority (both in using stars as bookmarks and not caring about how many stars a repo has).
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#148Explains most of the shit they have pushing with Windows 11. Perhaps all that bloatware was VibeVoiced too.
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#149Earlier quoted context omitted.
you saved us a lot of time here.... i unstarred the repo moving on....
I don't really pay attention to stars. Do people use them as bookmarks? Why would you star a repo if you knew so little about it?
Stars for me are basically "this might be interesting but I don't have time to look at it now, hopefully I'll think about it later and give it a second look".
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#150Earlier quoted context omitted.
you saved us a lot of time here.... i unstarred the repo moving on....
I don't really pay attention to stars. Do people use them as bookmarks? Why would you star a repo if you knew so little about it?
Judging by how many people apparently are paying bots to give their lazily vibe-coded repos thousands of stars, it seems like people both simultaneously take stars seriously while not taking them seriously at all. It breaks my brain.