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Re: Networking changes coming in macOS 27

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Even the new app launcher. It takes 1-2 seconds to draw a bunch of icons. Scrolling is also choppy. This even happens on their newest machines. How this possible in 2026?

>How this possible in 2026? Enshittification. When you're an ecosystem monopoly, people are forced to buy your shit no matter how bad it gets.

Macs are nowhere near a monopoly.

I would (grudgingly) accept this argument for iOS, but for Mac OS it doesn't make any sense.

Re: Networking changes coming in macOS 27

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"Dropping support for things just because they are old" is typical commercial software behavior. I can run the latest Linux kernel and still have access to an internal floppy disk drive if I wanted to, yet billion dollar companies can't seem to manage to support 10 year old stuff. I still am sore from when I "upgraded" macOS and suddenly support for my 1080i TV was gone. Yesterday it worked fine, today it's gone. All…

The economics make the reasoning obvious, though. With closed source IP, every bit of support, from bug fixes, to feature requests, to compatibility fixes to integrate with newer mainline/foundational tooling, costs money. With open source projects (and in particular ones like Linux where there's a huge number of contributors and interested parties), support for would-be niche facilities can keep going as long as the…

AFAIK, Linux has a policy that any change you make must not break existing kernel features, and if it does, you have to fix them yourself.

With that said, kernel maintainers have recently indicated that some unused subsystems are likely to be removed soon, as AI is now finding (real) security vulnerabilities in them that nobody is willing to fix.

Re: Networking changes coming in macOS 27

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"...if you have an Apple silicon Mac and AFP support is dropped from macOS 27, that would leave you unable to upgrade without replacing your network storage." How big is this market? I'm not saying vibe code a product, but...

Netatalk has been around for like 25 years: https://github.com/Netatalk/Netatalk

Relevant to the discussion is that the project comes with an AFP client as well. I have no experience with the client but I've used the Netatalk server for more than 15 years.

Re: Networking changes coming in macOS 27

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"Dropping support for things just because they are old" is typical commercial software behavior. I can run the latest Linux kernel and still have access to an internal floppy disk drive if I wanted to, yet billion dollar companies can't seem to manage to support 10 year old stuff. I still am sore from when I "upgraded" macOS and suddenly support for my 1080i TV was gone. Yesterday it worked fine, today it's gone. All…

And soon I won't be able to run old 32bit binaries with the latest Linux Kernel. We all move on.

Umm no?

> There are still some people who need to run 32-bit applications that cannot be updated; the solution he has been pushing people toward is to run a 32-bit user space on a 64-bit kernel. This is a good solution for memory-constrained systems; switching to 32-bit halves the memory usage of the system. Since, on most systems, almost all memory is used by user space, running a 64-bit kernel has a relatively small cost. Please, he asked, do not run 32-bit kernels on 64-bit processors.

https://lwn.net/Articles/1035727/

Re: Networking changes coming in macOS 27

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Next: macOS iCloud backups and the eventual deprecation of local Time Machine backups altogether. More services revenue!

The story of TimeMachine is a tragedy: a revolutionary feature that made backups accessible for normal people allowed to lie fallow for a decade or more until it's as annoying and unreliable as anything else. I now use Carbon Copy Cloner to avoid the TM headaches.

Good nudge to look into using CCC. Which folders do you backup? It seems slower than TM so thinking of backing up home folder only

Re: Networking changes coming in macOS 27

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On an unrelated note, I use Time Machine and I’m surprised at how unpolished, not to say downright buggy, all the animations are. They used to look magical, but now they are a mess of elements popping on and off and things moving and then vanishing the next frame and so on. It looks like they kept changing Finder and Time Machine didn’t keep up; they kept fixing the bare minimum to have it compile and nothing more.

Even the new app launcher. It takes 1-2 seconds to draw a bunch of icons. Scrolling is also choppy. This even happens on their newest machines. How this possible in 2026?

My app launcher loads as soon as it's triggered (4 fingers swiped in). There is a weird 5ms glitch on the zoom in animation, but otherwise it loads in within a few ms, and scrolling is smooth. I'm on a M2 MBA macOS 26.3.1

Edit, but don't take this as me saying I like the current state of macOS. There are plenty of weird edge cases I wish they'd fix, but on the whole the OS works fine for me.

Re: Networking changes coming in macOS 27

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They discontinued sales in 2018, but continued to support Time Capsule backup over AFP through macOS 26 (Tahoe).

It's been more than a decade since they replaced AFP with SMB as the default protocol for file sharing, and they've been warning that AFP would be going away for years.

Yeah but AFP is still performing way better than SMB on Mac for any fast networking. Like 10GigE and faster. Apple SMB stack is a disaster, and thoroughly unprofessional. NFS is faster, too, but unfortunately the Finder, being the rat nest of bugs it is, has often trouble with NFS shares.

Re: Networking changes coming in macOS 27

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I don’t know what kind of time machines you’ve been using, but typically everything changes outside all the portholes when you time travel.

skeuomorphism is back, boys!

Damn, I can't reply to the girls comment, but it's back for them too :P

Re: Networking changes coming in macOS 27

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On an unrelated note, I use Time Machine and I’m surprised at how unpolished, not to say downright buggy, all the animations are. They used to look magical, but now they are a mess of elements popping on and off and things moving and then vanishing the next frame and so on. It looks like they kept changing Finder and Time Machine didn’t keep up; they kept fixing the bare minimum to have it compile and nothing more.

Even the new app launcher. It takes 1-2 seconds to draw a bunch of icons. Scrolling is also choppy. This even happens on their newest machines. How this possible in 2026?

Apple hardware team looking at Apple software team: You guys, everything OK over there?
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