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As oceans warm, great white sharks are overheating

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Re: As oceans warm, great white sharks are overheating

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In what?

In your self-exculpation.

Depends on the subject. Some I’m at peace with (see my original post) and some I haven’t quite worked out to my own satisfaction.

The concept holds, in either case. It’s the only reasonable approach, imo.

Re: As oceans warm, great white sharks are overheating

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In your self-exculpation.

Depends on the subject. Some I’m at peace with (see my original post) and some I haven’t quite worked out to my own satisfaction. The concept holds, in either case. It’s the only reasonable approach, imo.

I hear a whole lot of "what I can't" and next to none of "what I can." Not where I'd want to be, but it's no skin off my nose, either. Good luck holding on to your soul - good luck, and I hope you end up not needing it.

Re: As oceans warm, great white sharks are overheating

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> If you care about something, I think you should be involved. You're free to overthrow your government and instate humanitarian policies, but a pebble is not inclined to roll uphill.

Certainty that your involvement is inconsequential requires too much intellectual hubris, it precludes the possibility that you may be wrong in your forecasts so you can let yourself off the hook for any effort. I get it, I do, but I think that's mind poison. Surprises to happen, the world is chaotic, yesterday's longshot becomes tomorrow's surprise. And, if nothing else, many of the efforts you can contribute to can…

Yes. I agree you should vote in your local elections, if only for your own sanity.

Re: As oceans warm, great white sharks are overheating

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Of course this is inside human control - we are directly responsible for what's happening! Unless you're one of the people who are willingly putting their head in the sand, I don't understand how it makes sense to act like this is still in question.

Okay, you're responsible... why haven't you stopped it?

I'm not sure if you thought this would come across as clever, or whatever else - but feel free to try again with an actual response to my point.

Re: As oceans warm, great white sharks are overheating

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Okay, you're responsible... why haven't you stopped it?

I'm not sure if you thought this would come across as clever, or whatever else - but feel free to try again with an actual response to my point.

Why should I, you completely missed mine... in that "guilt" is not appropriate or healthy here... you are not personally, directly responsible. That isn't to say that nothing can be done, but guilt serves nobody.

We seem to have a couple generations with literally toxic levels of guilt in so many ways that is completely unhealthy.

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I mean I don't use that car for any other purpose. My carbon footprint is probably around or below average for someone in Europe. I eat meat maybe with half of my meals and rarely eat beef or pork. The last time I got on a plane was in 2018 for work. Last holiday via a flight was I think in 2012 and was about 3 hours each way. I think the average American or even maybe Chinese citizen has a much higher footprint than…

Moral odium inheres, if nowhere else, in that you insist upon the seductive counsel of despair. The more convincing you make that, the less our fellows will feel themselves able in any meaningful way to act at all. What should I call such encouragement to cowardice, if not culpable?

its not a council of despair, its a council of perspective and a critique of those who offer ineffective solutions that are framed as morality. Those solutions only exist to make their practitioners feel good about themselves but change none of the outcomes.

Re: As oceans warm, great white sharks are overheating

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https://www.cremieux.xyz/p/from-pollution-to-solution I understand your concern but I don’t believe the impact is as severe as you think.

I appreciate the link, however it should be noted that piece was written by the co-founder of that same company. They do seem to be evidence driven but let's not pretend there's not some degree of bias towards the solutions his company is proposing. Additionally, that article focuses almost solely on the chances of producing acid rain, which actually is another issue and not the one I was first concerned with. That p…

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https://www.cremieux.xyz/p/from-pollution-to-solution I understand your concern but I don’t believe the impact is as severe as you think.

I appreciate the link, however it should be noted that piece was written by the co-founder of that same company. They do seem to be evidence driven but let's not pretend there's not some degree of bias towards the solutions his company is proposing. Additionally, that article focuses almost solely on the chances of producing acid rain, which actually is another issue and not the one I was first concerned with. That p…

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Re: As oceans warm, great white sharks are overheating

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https://www.cremieux.xyz/p/from-pollution-to-solution I understand your concern but I don’t believe the impact is as severe as you think.

I appreciate the link, however it should be noted that piece was written by the co-founder of that same company. They do seem to be evidence driven but let's not pretend there's not some degree of bias towards the solutions his company is proposing. Additionally, that article focuses almost solely on the chances of producing acid rain, which actually is another issue and not the one I was first concerned with. That p…

related and addresses your concerns from one of the leading scientists in stratospheric aerosol injection: https://davidkeith.earth/stardust-is-tackling-the-wrong-prob...
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