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Claude Opus 4.7

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Re: Claude Opus 4.7

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Post by RivieraKid »

stantonius wrote: post #93
acedTrex wrote: post #46

Sigh here we go again, model release day is always the worst day of the quarter for me. I always get a lovely anxiety attack and have to avoid all parts of the internet for a few days :/

I feel this way too. Wish I could fully understand the 'why'. I know all of the usual arguments, but nothing seems to fully capture it for me - maybe it' all of them, maybe it's simply the pace of change and having to adapt quicker than we're comfortable with. Anyway best of luck from someone who understands this sentiment.

Really? I think it's pretty straightforward, at least for me - fear of AI replacing my profession and also fear that it will become harder to succeed with a side project.

Re: Claude Opus 4.7

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Post by zeroonetwothree »

dbbk wrote: post #22
rvz wrote: post #13

Introducing a new upgraded slot machine named "Claude Opus" in the Anthropic casino. You are in for a treat this time: It is the same price as the last one [0] (if you are using the API.) But it is slightly less capable than the other slot machine named 'Mythos' the one which everyone wants to play around with. [1] [0] https://claude.com/pricing#api [1] https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-opus-4-7

If you're building a standard app Opus is already good enough to build anything you want. I don't even know what you'd really need Mythos for.

This is true if you know what you are doing and provide proper guidance. It’s not true if you just want to vibe the whole app.

Re: Claude Opus 4.7

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Post by CodingJeebus »

jampa wrote: post #66
benleejamin wrote: post #6

For anyone who was wondering about Mythos release plans: > What we learn from the real-world deployment of these safeguards will help us work towards our eventual goal of a broad release of Mythos-class models.

Mythos release feels like Silicon Valley "don't take revenue" advice: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzAdXyPYKQo ""If you show the model, people will ask 'HOW BETTER?' and it will never be enough. The model that was the AGI is suddenly the +5% bench dog. But if you have NO model, you can say you're worried about safety! You're a potential pure play... It's not about how much you research, it's about how much you're…

Completely agree. We're at this place where a frontier model's peak perceived value always seems to be right before it releases.

Re: Claude Opus 4.7

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Post by madeofpalk »

aurareturn wrote: post #38
buildbot wrote: post #12

Too late, personally after how bad 4.6 was the past week I was pushed to codex, which seems to mostly work at the same level from day to day. Just last night I was trying to get 4.6 to lookup how to do some simple tensor parallel work, and the agent used 0 web fetches and just hallucinated 17K very wrong tokens. Then the main agent decided to pretend to implement tp, and just copied the entire model to each node...

Funny because many people here were so confident that OpenAI is going to collapse because of how much compute they pre-ordered. But now it seems like it's a major strategic advantage. They're 2x'ing usage limits on Codex plans to steal CC customers and it seems to be working. I'm seeing a lot of goodwill for Codex and a ton of bad PR for CC. It seems like 90% of Claude's recent problems are strictly lack of compute r…

Seems very short term. Like how cheap Uber was initially. Like Claude was before!

Eventually OpenAI will need to stop burning money.

Re: Claude Opus 4.7

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Post by Der_Einzige »

desugun wrote: post #112
buildbot wrote: post #12

Too late, personally after how bad 4.6 was the past week I was pushed to codex, which seems to mostly work at the same level from day to day. Just last night I was trying to get 4.6 to lookup how to do some simple tensor parallel work, and the agent used 0 web fetches and just hallucinated 17K very wrong tokens. Then the main agent decided to pretend to implement tp, and just copied the entire model to each node...

I guess our conscience of OpenAI working with the Department of War has an expiry date of 6 weeks.

Longer than how long anyone cared about epstein.

Re: Claude Opus 4.7

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Post by Philpax »

aizk wrote: post #125

How powerful will Opus become before they decide to not release it publicly like Mythos?

They are planning to release a Mythos-class model (from the initial announcement), but they won't until they can trust their safeguards + the software ecosystem has been sufficiently patched.

Re: Claude Opus 4.7

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Post by anonfunction »

aizk wrote: post #125

How powerful will Opus become before they decide to not release it publicly like Mythos?

It seems they nerf it, then release a new version with previous power. So they can do this forever without actually making another step function model release.

Re: Claude Opus 4.7

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Post by ieie3366 »

Tiberium wrote: post #36
cupofjoakim wrote: post #20

> Opus 4.7 uses an updated tokenizer that improves how the model processes text. The tradeoff is that the same input can map to more tokens—roughly 1.0–1.35× depending on the content type. caveman[0] is becoming more relevant by the day. I already enjoy reading its output more than vanilla so suits me well. [0] https://github.com/JuliusBrussee/caveman/tree/main

I hope people realize that tools like caveman are mostly joke/prank projects - almost the entirety of the context spent is in file reads (for input) and reasoning (in output), you will barely save even 1% with such a tool, and might actually confuse the model more or have it reason for more tokens because it'll have to formulate its respone in the way that satisfies the requirements.

All LLMs also effectively work by ”larping” a role. You steer it towards larping a caveman and well.. let’s just say they weren’t known for their high iq
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