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Re: Mozilla Thunderbolt

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Post by amlib »

someguyiguess wrote: post #114
ryukoposting wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> already painful and readily apparent, stagnation of your browser What's wrong with Firefox? There are several things Firefox does that it's annoying to live without in other browsers (video pop-outs, competent ad blocking, etc). Is there some core feature that's missing? I'm subjected to Edge at work and I couldn't tell you a single thing it does that I'd want FF to do. > and our standards bodies as entities distin…

It doesn’t support a lot of video formats that Chrome and Safari have supported for years (h265 is one I think. I’m no expert)

Firefox has had support for h265 for a few months by now, they finally relented.

Re: Mozilla Thunderbolt

#142

Post by balamatom »

eipi10_hn wrote: post #87
shevy-java wrote: post #8

Yikes. Could Mozilla hand over firefox to a new team please? It is clear they are wasting time and energy on things nobody wanted - who wants Mozilla-AI please? I mean, seriously? For people who don't think Mozilla wants to make firefox competitive again; and for those who also don't think ladybird will become a viable alternative one day (that's for the future, I have no crystal ball, I am just pointing at one possi…

Why is this related to Firefox?

Because Firefox is the only thing that lends Mozilla any credibility.

Re: Mozilla Thunderbolt

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Post by ssalka »

I immediately thought "oh, the email client? It's AI now?" Then I realized this is Thunderbolt, not Thunderbird. Kind of an odd choice by Mozilla to have two products with such similar names.

Re: Mozilla Thunderbolt

#144

Post by drzaiusx11 »

braiamp wrote: post #112
Onavo wrote: post #109

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It's slow. It almost always trails Safari and Chrome on most benchmarks. See e.g. https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/1ljns9o/freshly_re...

How many milliseconds do you think this page took to render? I usually click and it's already done.

HN is not the most complex website rendering wise by any imaginable metric. I presume HN renders equally as fast on lynx or Mosaic from 1994...

Re: Mozilla Thunderbolt

#145

Post by balloob »

Neywiny wrote: post #137
ryukoposting wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> already painful and readily apparent, stagnation of your browser What's wrong with Firefox? There are several things Firefox does that it's annoying to live without in other browsers (video pop-outs, competent ad blocking, etc). Is there some core feature that's missing? I'm subjected to Edge at work and I couldn't tell you a single thing it does that I'd want FF to do. > and our standards bodies as entities distin…

Web usb and serial are not just missing, last I checked Mozilla is opting to not implement based on their moral stance. It just puts them behind for some stuff.

WebSerial just landed in Firefox nightly! https://bsky.app/profile/paulusschoutsen.nl/post/3mjfdx3ujta...

Re: Mozilla Thunderbolt

#146

Post by balamatom »

bryanlarsen wrote: post #47
BowBun wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm somewhat a fan of Mozilla, but their weak governance with regards to actual plans for the future, a couple of questionable partnerships, and the graveyard of products makes it hard to trust based on a 15+ year-old reputation. Would love to see where Mozilla has meaningfully contributed to the modern tech space (things we all actually use, not Mozilla versions of more popular apps/tools)

But despite that, Mozilla is still far more trustworthy than virtually everybody else. Who would you trust more? I imagine it's a very short list. Which is a sad state of affairs.

>Who would you trust more?

Nobody I'd mention on Hacker News!

Re: Mozilla Thunderbolt

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Post by drzaiusx11 »

eipi10_hn wrote: post #138
drzaiusx11 wrote: post #81

For anyone reading this that has worked on the launch of this new product (or the many others of their ilk throughout the years) under the various Mozilla orgs, I mean no disrespect, however I feel it's important to not mince words these days.. I implore ANYONE at Mozilla org to please, please stop working on projects distracting from the complex and necessary work of browser and web standards stewardship. That alone…

Yeah, you don't speak for me.

Fair enough.

Re: Mozilla Thunderbolt

#149

Post by tux3 »

holowoodman wrote: post #120
someguyiguess wrote: post #114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It doesn’t support a lot of video formats that Chrome and Safari have supported for years (h265 is one I think. I’m no expert)

h264 and h265 are patent-encumbered and therefore very expensive and/or dangerous. Patent trolls would rip Mozilla apart and eat all their money. The only reason H.264 works atm is that Cisco sponsors a plugin for that.

H264 patents are finally starting to expire, all the known patents have already expired in Europe.

As for HEVC, that particular licensing trash fire continues to burn bright. VVC had an opportunity to learn from the situation, and decided what they really wanted was a trash fire that burned even brighter.

So, we might be stuck with H264 for a little bit.

Re: Mozilla Thunderbolt

#150

Post by 440bx »

anildash wrote: post #38

Addressing the usual few complaints folks always bring up: * This is from the separate independent team that works on Thunderbird, not Firefox, so there isn't any resource contention happening there * Thunderbird is revenue positive, and this potentially gives that team another revenue stream to be even more self-sustaining through charging companies * Businesses definitely want to control the AI they're using (espec…

Can the team please use that money on making thunderbird look like the nice UI mockups that were published that don't look anything like thunderbird.
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