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Re: Wacli – WhatsApp CLI

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Post by wasabi991011 »

Marsymars wrote: post #130
lxgr wrote: post #107

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Yeah, that's a good workaround. Google Voice can work too. Unfortunately, more and more services are declining to send to VoIP numbers because of seCurItY, so it's a game of cat and mouse. Fortunately SMS is so expensive in parts of Europe and it's not allowable anymore to use SMS by itself for online payment authentication, and both issues combined have slowly been pushing companies to explore alternatives. There un…

If you port a landline number to a VoIP service, services can't really tell that you're using VoIP, as far as I can tell.

I thought that too but many carriers around me don't allow porting any VoIP-using number back to cellular. (Not sure if you were making a distinction between landline and cellular)

Unfortunately that means that my cell number which I wanted to temporarily park into VoIP while abroad is now permanently VoIP.

Re: Wacli – WhatsApp CLI

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Post by simonra »

bluebarbet wrote: post #106
lxgr wrote: post #101

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> Nobody gives a damn. What matters is that it works even on a potato. It doesn't work on my computer, nor does it work on my phone when I'm traveling (different SIM), so I give a damn. WhatsApp, iMessage, Signal etc. do both. I really wish there was an open, federated standard (and no, RCS is neither), but until then, I'll use what actually works for me. SMS just sucks, and I hate that it's become so ubiquitous an a…

You can rent a virtual mobile number in your home country and consult SMSs on the web or even redirect them to email. I have done this for years, using Twilio for 2€ a month. Can't say the UX is great but it certainly fixes the whole problem. I've never understood why so many people still chain their identities to physical SIM or even eSIMs. It's so fragile.

> I've never understood why so many people still chain their identities to physical SIM or even eSIMs. It's so fragile.

Living in a place where getting a replacement sim is gated behind obtaining an id from the police tied to your national id number, I wish there were other identity systems which were as robust. Much easier to get back to normal operations when the id device becomes damaged or lost with a physical sim you can shove into a cheap replacement device, than relying on backup services you need one of your digital id devices to access in the first place, especially if they're all lost at the same time in a house fire or something. The police will presumably get all my photo backups and savings if they ask nicely anyways, so the big threat to the single point of failure doesn't have a great marginal impact, while I dread the possibility of having to recover the accounts I can't get back through the local legal system given the poor 2fa recovery ecosystem.

Re: Wacli – WhatsApp CLI

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Post by fg137 »

theoryaway wrote: post #138
batuhanicoz wrote: post #34

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The way I would put it as someone who works at Beeper is: only use messaging automations for personal use, and don't use it to spam anyone or do anything you wouldn't do yourself within the app. As long as you don't abuse and keep your usage within the parameters of any human, you'll be fine.

Someone who previously helped a project Barista/instagrabber, you should be wary of it. https://web.archive.org/web/20240527132615/https://austinhua...

That's quite... something.

I (almost) don't use any Meta products, but this just convinces me that I should stay away from it as far as possible.

Re: Wacli – WhatsApp CLI

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Post by pedroslopez »

swyx wrote: post #128
joshwarwick15 wrote: post #25

(Caveat I’m the founder of https://wassist.app - The WhatsApp Agent Platform) Please be very careful using this tool to automate your WhatsApp - if you send too many messages, too quickly, you are going to get banned. This is NOT an officially supported api by WhatsApp and the risk of ban is relatively high

just so we know the consequences - is ban permanent? is there an appeals processes?

When banned it'll give you means to reach out to support, you can claim ignorance and get unbanned. I've gone through this, having done some whatsapp automation myself, YMMV though.

Re: Wacli – WhatsApp CLI

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Post by johnpork343 »

risyachka wrote: post #74
faangguyindia wrote: post #5

I just use telegram. Just yesterday I setup a bot which is easy via botfather And also, setup an app (claude built it but I had to fiddle with it, it works like pagerduty) but uses cloudflate worker to push downtime/errors (via fcm) in production (from graphana) via webhooks to "full screen, by pass dnd, alerts, with loud music, this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0IQBWWabuU ) I named the app "Siren". It's not…

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i say cap

Re: Wacli – WhatsApp CLI

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Post by swyx »

pedroslopez wrote: post #144
swyx wrote: post #128

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just so we know the consequences - is ban permanent? is there an appeals processes?

When banned it'll give you means to reach out to support, you can claim ignorance and get unbanned. I've gone through this, having done some whatsapp automation myself, YMMV though.

very helpful, thanks. good on WA for providing actually working support. people will fuck up when testing legitimate stuff, it happens.

Re: Wacli – WhatsApp CLI

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Post by 1vuio0pswjnm7 »

hikarudo wrote: post #116
baq wrote: post #75

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zuck can read your whatsapp messages, at this point I think I'd rather criminals and the government read them instead

WhatsApp is end-to-end encrypted. No one at Meta can read your messages.

Saw this exact claim on a billboard not too long ago

It's a strangely worded statement. What about data collection, metadata, other third parties

Maybe it's related to the fact that plaintiffs lawyers are now trying to verify what's going on inside Meta with WhatsApp through litigation discovery:

https://ia801607.us.archive.org/10/items/gov.uscourts.cand.4...

Meta's motion to dismiss seemed a little weak. Time will tell

https://ia801607.us.archive.org/10/items/gov.uscourts.cand.4...

Hearing will likely be sometime this summer

Re: Wacli – WhatsApp CLI

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Post by dTal »

cute_boi wrote: post #119
hikarudo wrote: post #116

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WhatsApp is end-to-end encrypted. No one at Meta can read your messages.

How are we sure that it is really end-to-end encrypted?

Practically speaking, it isn't secure; no closed app can be. It receives regular compulsory updates (old versions refuse to work) and there's nothing at all stopping Zuck from sneaking in backdoors targeted at you personally.

Re: Wacli – WhatsApp CLI

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Post by bluebarbet »

simonra wrote: post #142
bluebarbet wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can rent a virtual mobile number in your home country and consult SMSs on the web or even redirect them to email. I have done this for years, using Twilio for 2€ a month. Can't say the UX is great but it certainly fixes the whole problem. I've never understood why so many people still chain their identities to physical SIM or even eSIMs. It's so fragile.

> I've never understood why so many people still chain their identities to physical SIM or even eSIMs. It's so fragile. Living in a place where getting a replacement sim is gated behind obtaining an id from the police tied to your national id number, I wish there were other identity systems which were as robust. Much easier to get back to normal operations when the id device becomes damaged or lost with a physical si…

>Much easier to get back to normal operations when the id device becomes damaged or lost with a physical sim you can shove into a cheap replacement device

If the device can get damaged or lost, then the SIM can too. To buy a physical SIM or rent a virtual number online, in most jurisdictions you need to provide ID docs these days, so nothing is changed there.

Re: Wacli – WhatsApp CLI

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Post by kamma4434 »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #62
NoahZuniga wrote: post #51

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Meta already has a whatsapp api product

For spammers. They don't have one for regular people who want to do regular end-user computation.

I personally find the almost absence of spam on WhatsApp a big success story for it. Think about how much Spam still hits your email inbox (and nobody knows how much is filtered away before it does).

I totally understand why they try and make it hard for integration to happen. When compared to classic SMS, the fact that you need to start a conversation with a preapproved template means that they have a way to control casual interactions.

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