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US and Iran agree to provisional ceasefire

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I think this 10 point plan drops the need for US to pay reparations instead relying on transit fees which will be split with Oman. Missiles are still flying so it’s hard to say who has really agreed to what. I’ve heard rumors that Iran has agreed to dilute its highly enriched uranium so maybe the US could count that as a win. Given they’ve demonstrated sufficient conventional deterrence they may feel that they don’t…

IIRC they had already agreed to dilute the HEU during the negotiations ongoing at the time Trump launched the most recent war / not war / excursion.

Under Obama's plan they agreed to reduce its Uranium 97% and keep it well under weapons grade and got $2B for the assets that were seized after the revolution.

Here they stand to make $100B a year on tolling the gulf and get to keep their weapons grade Uranium that they stockpiled after Trump pulled us out of that agreement.

Just so much winning

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Honestly? I presume Trump and Iran both gain the ability to kick the can... which they both want. That ten-point plan is 'unrealistic' but he gets to beat his cheats and it looks like both sides are 'claiming' victory here. That this isn't a workable long-term solution seems almost irrelevant. We're at a point where our bargaining frictions are so high, that we'd both rather remain in this standoff as long as possibl…

> That this isn't a workable long-term solution IMHO that's bad analysis. This is a VERY good solution from Iran's perspective. They stared down a superpower and won. They've gone from an international pariah and nuissance to a genuine regional overlord in a single tweet. "Whoah there, folks. Stop your tankers please. Thanks. Last year was rough for our farmers. We're increasing tolls on the straight again. Don't lik…

If it holds they’ll be a regional hegemon instead of Israel, which is why Israel will not let it hold. They put everything on the line and they’re not going to give up now.

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> what did the US gain out of this Market manipulation and the media largely forgetting about a certain set of files that reference many people in powerful positions.

Less oil on the market meaning higher fuel prices with the US being a net exporter. Not sure that was the plan but it looks like a benefit.

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like a healthcare plan, always 2-3 weeks away

Trump said "repeal and replace Obamacare" so many times during his first term I can clearly hear it in my head in his voice.

Not only Trump. Most Republicans want to repeal. They are just struggling a little with the replace part.

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No available evidence suggests that Trump and Hegseth don't just like blowing up children.

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Well it's a good thing we blew up those children before they could blow up those children I guess...

A least Iran isn't poised to come out of this in a stronger position than it started.

Re: US and Iran agree to provisional ceasefire

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"Iran's Supreme National Security Council announced that Iran has achieved a major victory, compelling the United States to accept its 10-point plan. Under this plan, the U.S. has committed to non-aggression, recognized Iranian control over the Strait of Hormuz, accepted Iran’s nuclear enrichment, lifted all primary and secondary sanctions, ended all Security Council and Board of Governors resolutions, agreed to pay…

I don't buy it. The only way this could be more humiliating for the US is if Trump agreed to do a public apology from Tehran. No way the Gulf countries and Israel would even entertain the thought.

I wonder how badly damaged the Gulf countries as Israel were in the past few days.

I have the impression a lot of the damage caused by Iran is being hidden and downplayed.

Re: US and Iran agree to provisional ceasefire

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Better article with text: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/apr/07/trump-iran-w... > Israel will also agree to the two-week ceasefire, Axios reported, citing an Israeli official, adding that the ceasefire would enter effect as soon as the blockade of the strait of Hormuz ceased There’s the catch.

They will stop bombing as soon as Iran comes back to the situation for which it was bombed.

Re: US and Iran agree to provisional ceasefire

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We already attacked Iran twice during "talks," is there any indication that we mean it this time, or are we just going to bomb them again while negotiations are ongoing?

I have a Naive question, "why aren't the discussions related to public matters be telecasted live like a football match to the whole world? why isn't the public privy to the discussions about its own future?"
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