The most interesting finding here is that LLMs make individuals
generate more ideas but make groups generate fewer. The individual
effect, in my own experience, depends entirely on how you use the
tool. If you treat the first answer as the answer, you get the
homogenization the article describes. If you use the LLM to attack
your own framing from angles you wouldn't reach alone, you end up
closer to first principles, not further. Same tool, opposite
outcomes. The discipline is what differs, and most people probably
default to the first mode.
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#142Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Tips, tricks, life hacks and other expert techniques will once again be jealously guarded from the prying eyes of the LLM who would steal their competitive advantage & replicate it at scale I've already started thinking this way, there's stuff I would have open sourced in the past but no longer will because I know it would get trained on. I'm not sure of any way I can share it with humans and only humans. If I let…
It's worth questioning the underlying assumptions. It's humans - all humans - that benefit from LLMs. I see a lot of people having this attitude, but I can't help but see it as really being about seeking credit instead of generosity, and/or Dog in the Manger mindset.
> seeking credit instead of generosity, and/or Dog in the Manger mindset.
I have tried being generous to enemies. It only turns them them into... bigger, hungrier enemies.
I'm happy with never getting "credit" for anything I "accomplish" (whatever those notions even mean under a system where thoughts can be property).
I mean: as long as my labor output cannot be subverted to benefit hostiles even the tiniest bit.
> It's humans - all humans - that benefit from LLMs
The set of "all humans" includes that power-hungry majority who find nothing wrong with subjecting other sentient beings to sadistic treatment.
Those who, as soon as they take notice of me - or my kind, or our speech, or our trail - more often than not become terrified into outright aggression.
So far we had been protected from their stupidity and lack of imagination, by their stupidity and lack of imagination.
Now they've had brain prostheses developed for 'em, and... well I can't really do much for those who haven't already begun to reevaluate their baseline safety, now can I?
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I was listening to one of Altman's more recent interviews and it sounded like he himself has LLM induced psychosis.
I remember him tweeting about how he can "feel the AGI" when speaking to GPT
Another meaningless, extremely cringeworthy, tweet, hailed as a messianic message by many at the time.
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#144I know many people from the continent who sound American because they learned ENGLISH language that way... yes it's strange how the world of communication centres around the world of discourse...
This isn't new. But nice to see more social sciences joining the party on the LLM bandwagon.
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#145Earlier quoted context omitted.
There's plenty of people communicating more with LLMs than humans right now, of course it's going to have an effect because our language and thought patterns are extremely adaptive to our environment. The communication system we are born with is extremely bare-bones/general so that it can absorb whatever language and culture we are born into.
Those people tend to suffer from AI psychosis, and I don't think it's a thing you'd want to admit publicly that you don't interact with any humans and prefer the company of machines (let us also ignore that such people wouldn't be in public to begin with). I can't image such people are living meaningful lives in any capacity. They're up there with consumers that think the only purpose in life is to cheerlead for a co…
The GP said more with LLMs than people - not no interactions at all with people and not preferring machines to people. I don't think it is that hard to spend more time talking with LLMs than people if you work in tech and I don't think that takes away from one's life meaningfulness.
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#146Take a community with AI moderation like Reddit, I've been a participant for years. With the recent push to AI autocorrect and moderation, you can see the changes in language. New words, new ways of speaking, unconsciously editing yourself because you don't want to draw the eye of the bot. It doesn't feel subtle. It feels Orwellian.
It's particularly egregious on youtube, where people frequently use words like "unalived" or "self-deleted" instead of murder or suicide, lest they incur the wrath of the almighty algorithm.
This was the first change that came to mind and one of the more drastic changes.
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#147Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Tips, tricks, life hacks and other expert techniques will once again be jealously guarded from the prying eyes of the LLM who would steal their competitive advantage & replicate it at scale I've already started thinking this way, there's stuff I would have open sourced in the past but no longer will because I know it would get trained on. I'm not sure of any way I can share it with humans and only humans. If I let…
It's worth questioning the underlying assumptions. It's humans - all humans - that benefit from LLMs. I see a lot of people having this attitude, but I can't help but see it as really being about seeking credit instead of generosity, and/or Dog in the Manger mindset.
Corporations are not humans.
And while sociopaths - who benefit the most from corporations - technically are humans, I don't consider them parts of humanity, more like a cancer tissue on top of it.
So whatever benefit humanity gets is more than cancelled by the growing cancer.
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#148This state of affairs presages the advent of a second dark age - one that will forever eclipse the era of radical openness & transparency that once served the software community for decades. Tips, tricks, life hacks and other expert techniques will once again be jealously guarded from the prying eyes of the LLM whok would steal their competitive advantage & replicate it at scale, until any possible information asymme…
> Quasi-monastic orders that still scribe with pen and paper emerge, that believe there is still value in training and educating a human mind and body. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anathem#Plot_summary
A college instructor turns to typewriters to curb AI-written work and teach life lessons - https://apnews.com/article/typewriter-ai-cheating-chatgpt-co...
The scene is right out of the 1950s with students pecking away at manual typewriters, the machines dinging at the end of each line.
Once each semester, Grit Matthias Phelps, a German language instructor at Cornell University, introduces her students to the raw feeling of typing without online assistance. No screens, online dictionaries, spellcheckers or delete keys.
The exercise started in spring 2023 as Phelps grew frustrated with the reality that students were using generative AI and online translation platforms to churn out grammatically perfect assignments.Re: AI may be making us think and write more alike
#149Indeed. Everything will become uniform.
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#150Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Tips, tricks, life hacks and other expert techniques will once again be jealously guarded from the prying eyes of the LLM who would steal their competitive advantage & replicate it at scale I've already started thinking this way, there's stuff I would have open sourced in the past but no longer will because I know it would get trained on. I'm not sure of any way I can share it with humans and only humans. If I let…
It's worth questioning the underlying assumptions. It's humans - all humans - that benefit from LLMs. I see a lot of people having this attitude, but I can't help but see it as really being about seeking credit instead of generosity, and/or Dog in the Manger mindset.
> It's humans - all humans - that benefit from LLMs
This is not true tho. The moment LLM will be necessary, we will all have to pay to the monopoly owners, as much as they can extract.
But, they will never pay to us.