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Re: Iran threatens 'complete and utter annihilation' of OpenAI's $30B Stargate

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Post by srean »

21asdffdsa12 wrote: post #139
srean wrote: post #131

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> if its religion would not involve destroying all "unbelievers" in the middle east - That would be ultra orthodox zionists and illegal settlers that has been stealing land for decades now. https://www.primevideo.com/detail/Louis-Theroux-The-Ultra-Zi... An illuminating documentary. Everyone should give it a watch to understand the Zionist belief system. There is very little room to doubt who the bad actor is and was.…

Could he say anything else or other? He must sing the dhimi and hostage song for his life depends on it. I know what happens to the ghetto after the friday prayer. Pieces be upon the true believers..

Here is some Hebrew bible. So much for stoning and glass houses.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deuteronomy%202...

"When you march up to attack a city, make its people an offer of peace. If they accept and open their gates, all the people in it shall be subject to forced labor and shall work for you.

If they refuse to make peace and they engage you in battle, lay siege to that city. When the Lord your God delivers it into your hand, put to the sword all the men in it. As for the women, the children, the livestock and everything else in the city, you may take these as plunder for yourselves. And you may use the plunder the Lord your God gives you from your enemies. This is how you are to treat all the cities that are at a distance from you and do not belong to the nations nearby.

However, in the cities of the nations the Lord your God is giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive anything that breathes. Completely destroy[a] them—the Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites—as the Lord your God has commanded you"

Not to mention Israel's acts on Middle Eastern Jewish people

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavon_Affair

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1950%E2%80%931951_Baghdad_bomb...

Re: Iran threatens 'complete and utter annihilation' of OpenAI's $30B Stargate

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Post by kdheiwns »

akdev1l wrote: post #119
kdheiwns wrote: post #96

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For reference, how many times has the US interfered with Iran's government and how many people in Iran has the US killed since 1979? That's the only way to get a fair view of this discussion. Just wondering if all this happened in a vacuum or, god forbid, Iran maybe has some reason to dislike the US.

“What about…?” Does not make for a good argument.

It's like saying "A home owner shot armed burglar in self defense," then crying "self defense is whataboutism! That home owner needs to face mob justice!" Nah. Those tactics of yours simply do not work anymore. Everyone sees through it. Iran wouldn't be doing any of this if they weren't constantly being bombed and attacked and having their leaders assassinated. The strait was open 2 months ago and had no issues. Two countries decided to ruin that and they deserve to face the consequences.

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Post by Hikikomori »

21asdffdsa12 wrote: post #126
srean wrote: post #114

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[To the downvoter, downvoting is not going to change the historical facts] It was the US that upended Iranian parliamentary democracy with a military coup, sponsored chemical weapons attacks on Irani population (through its proxy Iraq). This killed some 30k to 50k by way of chemical attacks alone. Credible sources estimate 100K killed by these chemical weapons attacks alone. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraqi_chemic…

Only westerners can be bad actors or at all in historic events racism of the charts? It takes two to tango and iran is dancing its heart out.. and could have had the most peacefull life, if its religion would not involve destroying all "unbelievers" in the middle east - first and foremost aimed at israel.

It takes two to tango is a weird way to describe western imperialism.

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Post by SanjayMehta »

gambiting wrote: post #104
SanjayMehta wrote: post #78

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>>from The Ukraine It's just Ukraine. Unless you're doing this on purpose. >>and even a blatantly biased outlet is unable to prove such assertions like 20 people per hour https://www.csis.org/analysis/russias-grinding-war-ukraine It seems to hover around 30k dead a month recently, so 1000 people a day, divided by 24, that's actually ~41 people an hour. But you know, even if we assume these numbers are wildly innacura…

Clearly nuance is not your forte.

Even a highly biased source like the BBC admits to a highly skewed KIA ratio favouring - poor choice of words but meh - Russia.

Let that sink in. The real ratio must be much higher.

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Post by mikkupikku »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #124
mikkupikku wrote: post #110

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The American people are already getting flogged when they buy fuel and groceries. The longer this war continues the worse it will get. Nonetheless, the American people themselves are mostly safe at home, the precedent for Iran launching any sort of attacks against the American homeland is basically nonexistent. Even sending terror cells, you'd think Iran would be on this for how often their western critics accuse the…

> American people are already getting flogged when they buy fuel and groceries No, we're not. It's bad. But it's nothing compared to Russia.

Not as bad as Russia... damning with faint praise, aren't we?

Re: Iran threatens 'complete and utter annihilation' of OpenAI's $30B Stargate

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Post by gambiting »

SanjayMehta wrote: post #145
gambiting wrote: post #104

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>>from The Ukraine It's just Ukraine. Unless you're doing this on purpose. >>and even a blatantly biased outlet is unable to prove such assertions like 20 people per hour https://www.csis.org/analysis/russias-grinding-war-ukraine It seems to hover around 30k dead a month recently, so 1000 people a day, divided by 24, that's actually ~41 people an hour. But you know, even if we assume these numbers are wildly innacura…

Clearly nuance is not your forte. Even a highly biased source like the BBC admits to a highly skewed KIA ratio favouring - poor choice of words but meh - Russia. Let that sink in. The real ratio must be much higher.

>>The real ratio must be much higher.

How can you make such a confident assumption? Like I said in another comment - it could be simply that Russians are being killed in places where Ukrainians can't or won't retrieve their bodies from. As Russians are the aggressors and moving into Ukrainian territory, this seems almost expected?

>>Even a highly biased source like the BBC admits to a highly skewed KIA ratio favouring Russia

Except they aren't doing that at all, because unlike you, they aren't equating bodies traded with KIA ratios. Maybe nuance isn't my forte, but then again, I'm not sure what yours is.

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Post by megous »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #108
megous wrote: post #100

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Just claiming something doesn't make it true. And also there's the whole scale thing.

> there's the whole scale thing Sort of? I don't think that's really how war crimes work. Unless we're objectively in eye-for-an-eye territory, in which case we're not really talking about international law anymore. (To be clear, I think everyone talking about international law in this conflict is posturing. We've been collectively setting new norms for years, and between Russia, China and America, the rules seem to…

It doesn't matter. Killing 34 something children like Hamas did vs 20 000 something children like Israel did in the same conflict.

Or threatening some water facility in a country with functioning air defense vs threatening entire population of 92 million with complete anihilation ("A whole civilization will die tonight" like Trump just said on behalf of all americans - credible threat from a nuclear superpower with enough nukes to spare), in a country where they can't really defend against this other than spreading the costs on enemy-allied countries.

There's bad, and there's 100x worse. And yeah, people should focus on stopping the 100x worse first, is my belief.

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Post by graemep »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #127
curt15 wrote: post #113

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>They haven't been following international law since 1979. History doesn't start in 1979. Why not go back to 1953? Overthrowing another country's elected government is no more conscionable under international law.

> Why not go back to 1953? Overthrowing another country's elected government is no more conscionable under international law Nobody said you can't. I don't think the point is undermined. Neither the U.S. nor Iran have shown any consistent affection for international law.

Hardly anyone consistently follows international law.

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Post by megous »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #127
curt15 wrote: post #113

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>They haven't been following international law since 1979. History doesn't start in 1979. Why not go back to 1953? Overthrowing another country's elected government is no more conscionable under international law.

> Why not go back to 1953? Overthrowing another country's elected government is no more conscionable under international law Nobody said you can't. I don't think the point is undermined. Neither the U.S. nor Iran have shown any consistent affection for international law.

At least the Iran leaders are not out of control nutjobs, compared to US president, and electorat/cronnies who put him to power and gave him nukes:

CNN: Trump threatens Iran ahead of deadline: "A whole civilization will die tonight" (speaking about 92 million people)

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