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It's not 1965 anymore.
So you’ll birth one kid and she’ll birth the other?
Zero and zero?
FTC action against Match and OkCupid for deceiving users, sharing personal data
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Re: FTC action against Match and OkCupid for deceiving users, sharing personal data
#142All of these sites do shady shit. I'm so glad I'm no longer single. I signed up for eHarmony with a unique email address dedicated to that site. After wasting 6 months, I chose to delete my account. Lo and behold, soon spam started to show up on this account, as if the floodgates had been opened. It was a unique account that I had not used anywhere else just for this specific reason, and my hunch was justified.
After wasting 6 months, I chose to delete my account. Lo and behold, soon spam started to show up on this account, as if the floodgates had been opened. Facebook is also guilty of this. I set up a Facebook account for a relative around 2006. The e-mail address is name_facebook@ a domain that I control. Every six months or so, Facebook will send out almost daily e-mails for a month saying "Person x commented on your p…
How do you know they are not commenting on old content? FB could be pushing old content like 'remember X from 18 years ago' and then someone comments about remembering their friend under an old photo.
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#143Earlier quoted context omitted.
They were good 15 years ago. As with all things, it went to shit when Match.com started consolidating everything and the bean counters realized that a quality product was not as profitable. Surprised it took this long to get litigation. So many people complaining about how crap dating sites are, but no one thought to realize the site itself was the problem and fell into the whole "looksmaxxing" grift. Some people rea…
Dating sites are an extremely hard business to be in. On a traditional (social) network, whether that'd be Facebook, the railroad or the Bloomberg Terminal, you have the network effect. The more users you get, the more interesting the network becomes, which means yet more users want to join. This is a positive feedback loop. The entire point of a dating site is to find somebody to leave that site with. Statistically…
Interesting observation. Perhaps the business model is to push to you people 'good enough' to date but not 'good enough' to leave the site with?
Re: FTC action against Match and OkCupid for deceiving users, sharing personal data
#144Earlier quoted context omitted.
> OkCupid gave users different prices based on whether they selected male or female for their profile. never heard or thought about this before, but it kind of makes sense for a dating app. its one of the only levers available to them to attempt any sort of balance between user genders. it sucks for everyone (including the users) if the male:female ratio is like 20:1 or whatever. i would rather pay a couple of extra…
Reminds of being a young guy and feeling annoyed when girls are being let into clubs for free without waiting in line, and I had to wait in line and pay. Sometimes I could not get in because the club was "full", but the girls would be allowed in.
In the clubs I used to go as a young man, it was both men and women that jumped the queue, and it tended to be how you looked and who you knew. Although it tended to be good looking women and rich/connected men.
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#145Earlier quoted context omitted.
So, your dating photos were going to a government contractor involved with AI killer drone technology. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clarifai#Military_work
Killing singles near you!
Killing significant others to broaden the dating pool! Delivering value to existing users!
Re: FTC action against Match and OkCupid for deceiving users, sharing personal data
#146I once went on a date with someone who did research at OKCupid who told me that they were doing NLP-style analysis of peoples' messages that they sent to each other. Still not really sure what to think of the date itself, but it was a fucked up admission.
No it totally wasn't a fucked up admission, it was actually a useful and pro-user measure (all this good stuff was before the 2011 acquisition).
Christian Rudder's OKTrends blog (and Sam Yagan's presentation at their acquisition celebration) even spelled out the reason why: some women on OKC (or, more rarely, men) would acquire the "Replies rarely"/red color on their profile, for almost never (Anyway, to avoid getting labeled the dread "Replies rarely", some (mostly female) users got in the habit of sending one-liner responses that were ambiguous/non-committal/cryptic/negging. And then not responding further (but without unmatching, which only took a single click). This was making their profile look less undesirable but generating pointless message traffic and reducing the overall utility of the platform at actually attempting to match people (for compatibility, not just initial attraction). Hence, OKC tried to actually measure initial exchanges to figure out which ones led to genuine back-and-forth conversations of 3+ messages (which is an ok proxy for inferring a match, certainly a better proxy than just counting initial messages/likes/votes on photos). Yagan jokingly referred to this as "Every Monday morning, we ask 'How many three-ways did we set up over the weekend?'"). (PS, Rudder and Yagan both stressed that users' names/identities/ identifying characteristics were kept out of the analysis.)
After the 2011 IAC acquisition, most of this platform quality control (and looking for constructive insights) went out the window pretty quickly and the three cofounders moved to OKCupid Labs. But it was good for the brief while it lasted. By 2013 a chainsaw had been taken to most of OKC's unique features, esp. for free users.
Re: FTC action against Match and OkCupid for deceiving users, sharing personal data
#147Re: FTC action against Match and OkCupid for deceiving users, sharing personal data
#148Throwaway account. I tried these sites a couple of times each in the past (the UK versions at least). I'm married now and fortunately don't have to deal with "the dating scene" and how awful it is/was. When I signed up for Match, about ten minutes into the process my account suddenly changed to that of another man including different photo, descriptions, orientation etc. I don't know why this happened but it was abso…
I met my current wife on OKC in 2010, before online dating became an utter cesspool. I've been out of the dating scene for 16 years now, but based on what I see on social media, I think online dating sucks today for three reasons. 1. Many men (Not all, but many) are there simply because they want to get laid. They're not looking for a relationship, they're looking for a hook-up, and they're not honest about their int…
you're right no on the problems (symptoms) but didnt' state the cause.
social media i.e especially instagram has caused women / men etc to curate this idea of themselves that doesn't match to reality.
hence every activity / date etc has to worth an insta moment.
whether you meet initially in person or online - the problem remains - pretense.
no one wants to be shit-shovler(working non-glamorous jobs), home-idler anymore or to be seen as bland / boring which 90% of people are.
Re: FTC action against Match and OkCupid for deceiving users, sharing personal data
#149Earlier quoted context omitted.
They did tons of data analysis across all aspects of profiles, and had a popular blog where they published the results. They were heavily involved in researching what factors more reliably led to not just better matches, but better relationships -- when you disabled your account, they'd ask if it was because you'd met someone through OkC and ask you to pick who, if you were willing to share. I don't think there was a…
You realize that you're responding in a thread about OkCupid deceiving users and sharing data with 3rd parties right? 34. In response to this request, Humor Rainbow gave the Data Recipient access to nearly three million OkCupid user photos. Humor Rainbow’s President and Chief Technology Officer were directly involved in facilitating the data transfer. 35. In addition to user photos, Humor Rainbow shared other persona…
You realize I was responding to a comment that wasn't about that?
A company running NLP on its own user data doesn't have anything to do with third parties.
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#150Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why are you guys so concerned with these people? Let them live their lives. I guarantee you they are not dying alone or whatever mortal curse you wish to invoke.
I'm not, was just responding to the apparent frustration and finding people who want expensive dinners dates. If that's not your thing, great, there are people out there who would love a coffee and a walk or whatever. I'm one of them. A formal dinner on a first date sounds awful to my slightly shy and introverted self. I'd much rather go hiking or something.
I don’t think they were talking about you