Earlier quoted context omitted.
But then what are they going to do with the Gorillas? Are winters in Korea that cold?
Nighttime temps of -10c, I think we've got this locked! If not, send the saja boys after them.
Yes, but then who hunts the Huntr/x?
South Korea Mandates Solar Panels for Public Parking Lots
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#142Earlier quoted context omitted.
Phoenix is uninhabitable precisely because it's entirely optimized for car life from what I heard? (i.e. massively spread out, no walkability, etc)
It's car optimized because the 110F weather makes it un-walkable in the first place. When I lived in a walkable city, I would prefer to walk 30 minutes than drive. When I lived in Phoenix, I did not want to spend more than 30 seconds outside in the summer.
how's the tree situation though? 110F + lots of huge trees = a lot more tolerable. trees cool shit down big time.
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#143Earlier quoted context omitted.
That is definitely not going to be easier or cheaper.
They covered most of the parking lots with solar cells a few years back at nearby Michigan State. The economics weren't there, but as a friend who worked there pointed out they viewed it as research. It's great that when it snows you don't get nearly as much of the white stuff on your vehicle. But when it snows energy production slows to a crawl. We have a lot of snowy days a third of the year.
I wonder if there’s any situation where running heaters to keep the panels clear ends up with positive electricity generation. If nothing else it would help after the fact.
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#144The solar covered parking lots near me are great because they also serve as cover for your car when it’s hot and sunny. It’s not the most cost effective way to install solar, though. A tall structure designed to put the panels high up in the air and leave a lot of space for cars is a lot more expensive than normal rooftop solar or even field setups. This is basically a way to force some of the cost of clean energy as…
A better version for shade and city beautification is to force trees around/within the parking lot.
An even better version is to do away with the parking lot part and just have the trees.
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#145I really want America to get on board with this. Getting people to not drive is a nearly impossible task given how slow cities move to change the codes, so if we have to have parking lots, put them to use.
I really want the US to get on board with solar in general. Parking lot solar is a good thing generally, but I don't think it should be mandatory because it's an inefficient use of resources. We don't have any shortage of rural land. Maybe a more flexible policy could be something like: for every parking spot, you must add 1 kw of solar somewhere on your property (whether that's the parking lot or building roof or wh…
Feels a little gameable. I’d sell solar rights to some bit of land that I was already going to profitably adding solar to. It might still result in good incentives though.
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#146This is the kind of thing that every western ( or “rich” ) government should have mandated years ago. The best time was years ago, the second best time… We see the results of initiatives like this in BC, Canada. About 10 years ago they passed a law that when any government building is getting a renovation of any kind, public EV chargers must be built in the parking lot. The result is that every single town without ex…
> This is the kind of thing that every western ( or “rich” ) government should have mandated years ago. If it's cost effective there's no need to mandate it. If it's not cost effective but you want it anyway, you can explicitly subsidize it instead of mandating it. Does South Korea do mandated parking minimums like I hear is common here in the US? That would tell whether this is a tax on business property in general,…
Some things suddenly become cost effective when mandated, because it causes economies of scale to come into existence where they previously didn't.
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#147Earlier quoted context omitted.
Phoenix is uninhabitable precisely because it's entirely optimized for car life from what I heard? (i.e. massively spread out, no walkability, etc)
I suspect they were mostly referring to it being uninhabitable due to the extreme heat and duration of 100ºF+ days.
A dry 100F is fine weather. I’ll take that over a midwestern winter any day.
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#148Some more context as someone living in Korea right now, "cheap" cars in Korea are quite rare, especially in Seoul. Having a car is somewhat of a luxury and not needed for daily life. So I think this is trying to move some of the cost of clean energy towards those who can afford it.
Does Korea also not allow Chinese cars?
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#149> Under a new decree approved by President Lee Jae-myung during a Cabinet meeting on March 11, mid-to-large-sized public parking lots with 80 or more spaces must install solar power generation South Korea is going to get a lot of 79-space parking lots.
It’s government only. It’s not red tape.
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#150I really want America to get on board with this. Getting people to not drive is a nearly impossible task given how slow cities move to change the codes, so if we have to have parking lots, put them to use.
We were on board until this administration. Even then they have to be actively hostile to solar to even make a dent in the rate of uptake.