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The first 40 months of the AI era

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Re: The first 40 months of the AI era

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Post by dag100 »

bonoboTP wrote: post #23
htnthrow11220 wrote: post #10

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I see it all the time in basically every form of text communication. What makes you think you are not seeing it?

I found that many people don't have a radar for this. They may know about delve, emdashes, tapestry, multifaceted or "not just X but y" and if these are not there they don't see it.

They probably don't care enough to notice the tells. I think that it's generally those ambivalent, skeptical or opposed to AI who notice, while those who wholeheartedly support AI see no reason to differentiate between it and humans and so do not even try to.

Re: The first 40 months of the AI era

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Post by bonoboTP »

dag100 wrote: post #141
bonoboTP wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I found that many people don't have a radar for this. They may know about delve, emdashes, tapestry, multifaceted or "not just X but y" and if these are not there they don't see it.

They probably don't care enough to notice the tells. I think that it's generally those ambivalent, skeptical or opposed to AI who notice, while those who wholeheartedly support AI see no reason to differentiate between it and humans and so do not even try to.

I don't think it's that simple. I'm not blanket opposed to it. I'm more along the lines of the author of the article. Use it for what it's good at, sift through unstructured info, convert information from one format to another, implement things that are planned out well with iterations and feedback, etc, and generally mapping out the capabilities.

I think those who are very opposed to AI often don't know much about the real limitations since they don't use it, and their complaints are often a year or more out of date.

I think the ideal demographic for spotting these are people who use the frontier LLMs a lot and they also have worked with text in detail, such as copywriters, people who have learned foreign languages and grammar etc., have edited articles for language and generally have a more "wordsmith" look at language and are sensitive to flow and rhythm of language on a more technical level.

Re: The first 40 months of the AI era

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Post by threethirtytwo »

shimman wrote: post #51
threethirtytwo wrote: post #36

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This is a temporary problem. Look at how fast things are progressing. Things will improve until none of this matters because the output is indistinguishable.

I wish I could be this confident about the future.

It’s not confidence. It’s the most realistic trendline from the last 3 years. Chatbot to agentic coding.

Re: The first 40 months of the AI era

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Post by andsoitis »

cousin_it wrote: post #97
danappelxx wrote: post #86

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There is natural incentive for engineers working on a project to keep Claude skills up to date. I cannot say the same for general documentation.

But maybe not for long. When we get long-running AIs, the knowledge locked inside the AI's thinking might supplant docs once again. Like if you had an engineer working at your company for a long time and knowing everything. With all the problems that implies, of course.

at any time you can ask the model to produce documents given the latest state of the code base and at an altitude you choose.

Re: The first 40 months of the AI era

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Post by bonoboTP »

H8crilA wrote: post #9

Do you regularly find text content that you know is AI written (but is not marked as such)? Because honestly I don't, and it must exist in decent quantity by now. Or perhaps it's still sparse?

For example the first frontpage post I read just now (I haven't checked others) is I'm fairly sure written with the use of AI (I would guess based on a human draft): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47566442

I can't prove it but I'm comfortable enough in my judgment to say it.

Re: The first 40 months of the AI era

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Post by dehrmann »

andai wrote: post #139
d675 wrote: post #77

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I'm an early-mid career SDET/SRE. Currently building a full web app with rest AP integrations, looks great and works great. Lots of functionality, useful and being hardened all b/c of AI. It's going to be live with customers soon I hope. AI is not a feature of the product. GTM will be interesting, have some good ideas. It's really up to you to be clever. I've never used Js/Ts/node/these apis etc. I started programmin…

What is GTM? (Also had to google several of the other acronyms)

Go to market.

Re: The first 40 months of the AI era

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Post by 650 »

Hekkova wrote: post #39

I would agree with the utility of Claude and Claude Code. Claude feels like your own executive assistant, sales team and IT department. Combine that with Claude Code and you can build some incredible things. Myself as an example, I used Claude to advise me on starting a business and building a MVP. After a few weeks of refinement I was able to create something I never could have done without Claude. It is a game chan…

What did you build? Given how new the account is

Re: The first 40 months of the AI era

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Post by k33d »

holoduke wrote: post #96

The internet as we know it is dead. Websites will seize to exist in 2 years from now. On the fly UIs will be generated. Tailored exactly to your ad profile. Content will be either AI slop that's better than humans can ever make or products that are a perfect fit for your spendable part of your wallet

what a load of nonsense

Re: The first 40 months of the AI era

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Post by maltelandwehr »

RuslanL wrote: post #127
Rapzid wrote: post #78

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I feel like Google search results have gotten tremendously worse over the past 2 years too. It's almost like you have to use AI search to find anything useful now. Which of course reduces traffic to sites and thus the incentives to create the content you're looking for in the first place :(

Does anyone know which tool can be best used instead of Google for "classic", non-AI googling?

Pure non-AI googling will not work since many websites now use AI to create content. And so far, no search engine has managed to reliable detect and filter that out.

Re: The first 40 months of the AI era

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Post by maltelandwehr »

Rapzid wrote: post #78
theteapot wrote: post #35

> While I’m certain that this technology is producing some productivity improvements, I’m still genuinely (and frustratingly) unsure just how much of an improvement it is actually creating. I often wonder how much more productive I'd be if just a fraction the effort and money poured into LLMs was spent on better API documentation and conventional coding tools. A lot of the time, I'm resorting to using an AI because I…

I feel like Google search results have gotten tremendously worse over the past 2 years too. It's almost like you have to use AI search to find anything useful now. Which of course reduces traffic to sites and thus the incentives to create the content you're looking for in the first place :(

I actually think the AI Overviews from Google have improved a lot in the last 2 years. They used to be trash. And now they are often good-enough so that I do not even switch to ChatGPT anymore.

The traditional search results suffer a lot because AI and AI content generation have enable a lot of aggressive SEO/spam plays.

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