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Re: Is it a pint?

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Post by lokar »

lucideer wrote: post #101
pmh wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> not only are the glasses typically much smaller (this is fine) but they also leave massive gaps at the top I'm wondering if this is due to the prevalence of cask ales vs bottle/keg conditioning. The former is relatively uncommon in Belgium and you want the head from the latter. That said, oversized glassware (e.g. Duvel's tulip for aromatics) and/or fill lines are also used to accommodate the head while still not c…

It could well have emerged as a cultural norm from the prevalence of heads, but I've seen it often for very moderate heads, with a gap left above the foam. > not cheating the customer out of volume I don't think it's cheating if its the norm. One would expect prices to be set appropriately for the average volume served (i.e. a full glass would be a bonus rather than the gap being a loss). I do just find it odd, comin…

I have a couple glasses of that style (la chouffe), they have a mark for 33cl, which I assume is a full pour

Re: Is it a pint?

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Post by justonceokay »

joombaga wrote: post #140

I'm having trouble understanding these 2 claims from the summary: > 1 in 2 pints delivered less than 14.4 oz (below 90%) > 37.9% were significantly short (under 90% of claimed volume) Aren't those the same claim with different percentages? 1 in 2 is 50%, and 50% is less than 37.9%

Sounds like a typo you are overanalyzing. I bet the second number was supposed to be 80%.

Re: Is it a pint?

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Post by saalweachter »

ch_123 wrote: post #52
consp wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A pint in the Netherlands usually is 500ml. In very rare cases, but only in real pubs (not mass market "Irish" pubs) you get an actual pint. So you are cheated out of about ~68ml in that case. Vs the US you get a few ml more.

A standard US pint is about 473ml so a US pint is ~95ml less than an imperial pint.

In the 19th century, at the same time they went stone-mad (and redefined the hundredweight as 8 stone or 112lb), the British redefined the pint as 20 oz.

After this point, there was no where the whole world round where a pint was a pound.

(The US standardized on the wine gallon, so a US pint is and was 1.04 lbs.)

Re: Is it a pint?

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Post by nathancahill »

jghn wrote: post #4

In the US at least it's pretty common to see bars using cheater pints. They look like 16 oz pint glasses but with a few tricks wind up only holding 14 oz

Indeed. And coffee bags have gone from 16oz to 12oz to 10oz and I saw my first 8oz bag recently (while keeping the same form factor).

Re: Is it a pint?

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Post by jccooper »

lucideer wrote: post #19

I'm from Ireland, where filling beers precisely up to the brim is practically a religion, & many barmen will even take the glass back & top it up if they see the head diminishing too quickly in the space of time it takes you to pick the freshly poured pint up. One thing that always struck me as odd is how the culture is seemingly the opposite of this in apparent beer meccas like Belgium - not only are the glasses typ…

Belgian glasses, like wine glasses, leave room for head and aromatics.

Belgium is also fanatical about matching the glass with the beer, and Europe has the very sensible pour line on glasses, so it is designed for a certain fill and filled to the design.

It's designed for experience, not volume.

Re: Is it a pint?

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Post by alexfoo »

philipwhiuk wrote: post #46
badgersnake wrote: post #9

We’ve had laws requiring landlords to serve standardised pints the UK since 1698. This is not a new problem.

I like the CAMRA ones which have the pint line below the rim of the glass. Because technically the head doesn't count as part of the pint and there's a lot of back-and-forth about what the legally acceptable amount of head really is (CAMRA say 0%, pub associations serve 5%, pubs themselves serve whatever they think you'll pay for).

> CAMRA say 0%, pub associations serve 5%

That's a bit of an apples and oranges comparison.

A real ale that CAMRA would be happy with rarely has any head at all whereas a generic lager may need a patient pour to keep it to just 5% head.

Anyone asking for a Guinness with no head doesn't understand the drink they've ordered.

Re: Is it a pint?

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Post by hug »

BashiBazouk wrote: post #28

Reminds me of backpacking up and down the east coast of Australia. I learned that Fosters is only northern New South Wales for beer. Every place had their own preferred beer, but maddeningly they all had their own glass. A tenner, a schooner. Each a slightly different size. I made friends with a guy in Hobart that was staying in the hostel as he was doing research there, I think he was a biologist. He took me to his…

As someone heavily involved in the hospitality (read: beer) area, this doesn't really line up with reality in Australia: there's only one state (South Australia) that doesn't agree on the major standard sizes: Pints are 470ml, schooners are 425ml, a half pint is 285ml, and a pony is 140ml.

There's colloquialisms for a half: pot, or middy, mostly. Hobart will call a half pint a ten, because it's 10oz, but they also know what you're talking about when you ask for a pot or a half pint.

Then there's South Australia, which will serve you a pint at 425ml, a schooner at 285ml, no one there outside of specialty craft beer bars have any idea what a half pint is, and if you want a proper pint you need to ask for an imperial pint. I have never seen an 'imperial pint' advertised in Hobart - it's just called a pint there.

Source: I have pretty extensive drinking experience in pretty much all of the Australian capital cities, except Perth.

Re: Is it a pint?

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Post by NelsonMinar »

bombcar wrote: post #3

In the EU I noticed lots of glasses had markings on the side - if it was full to the line, it was a pint (or liter or whatever). McDonalds cups have a line for ice.

They are serious about this in Germany. At the Christmas markets it's common to get a single Glühwein mug that you keep and have filled with drinks as you visit. Even these little souvenir keepsakes have a fill line marked on them, no doubt policed by some very stern German standards keepers.

Re: Is it a pint?

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Post by benhurmarcel »

jcul wrote: post #88
consp wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A pint in the Netherlands usually is 500ml. In very rare cases, but only in real pubs (not mass market "Irish" pubs) you get an actual pint. So you are cheated out of about ~68ml in that case. Vs the US you get a few ml more.

Do they actually call it a pint or just a half litre / large beer? That's seems to be the norm in a lot of mainland Europe.

In France it’s 500mL and it’s actually called a pint

Re: Is it a pint?

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Post by credit_guy »

If you compare the US and the UK regarding the alcoholic beverage servings, then you can reach two conclusions, depending whether you think drinking alcohol is good or bad. If you think it's bad, then the US is better, because the restaurants in the US tend to serve smaller sizes. I am in this camp. In the UK, by comparison, the restaurants are much more generous; wine glasses seem gargantuan compared to wine glasses in the US. I suppose some people like that, but I am not sure that's really something to admire.
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