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Iran launched unsuccessful attack on UK's Diego Garcia

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Re: Iran launched unsuccessful attack on UK's Diego Garcia

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Post by srean »

gambutin wrote: post #92
cardanome wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Iran is fighting for survival, Israel and the US are fighting by choice. They attacked Iran not the other way round. US bases, even if also used by UK which aides US it their war, are legitimate targets. US imperialism is the greatest threat to the world.

Iranian kids have been chanting death to Israel and death to USA for 47 years now. They’ve been waiting for this.

Well, if US takes down their democracy and downs their domestic passenger jets, fight a proxy war with chemical weapons through Saddam Hussein that alone kills 20~30 thousand, no country is going to respond to that with flowers in their hair.

In Iran's defence, in spite of being attacked repeatedly with chemical weapons, not once have they retaliated with chemical weapons. This is in line with their beliefs which was formalized into a fatwa by the late Khamenei against nuclear weapons.

I would call that taking a pretty principled stand at a time when it would have been very tempting to redefine them.

Re: Iran launched unsuccessful attack on UK's Diego Garcia

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Post by breppp »

watwut wrote: post #133
breppp wrote: post #107

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Hardly, after attacking all their friends in the region, which would leave them even more isolated after the war, I would not attribute careful strategic planning either

They were not mutual friends. They were mutually hostile. And the friends are hosting american soldiers and bases.

Qatar and Oman were mutually hostile? that's a very unique interpretation of Middle Eastern politics

Re: Iran launched unsuccessful attack on UK's Diego Garcia

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Post by bdangubic »

9991 wrote: post #126
bdangubic wrote: post #85

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that would be stupid and their regime is not stupid

They're Muslims. You can debate whether that means 'stupid', but they've come to totally erroneous opinions on the structure of reality.

first, what does it matter whether they are Muslims or not? second, what is the structure of reality?! you may have some notion you know what “reality” is given what your media allows you to think - the actual reality is vastly different than you think it is - that is a certainty

Re: Iran launched unsuccessful attack on UK's Diego Garcia

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Post by 1over137 »

fnordpiglet wrote: post #8
myth_drannon wrote: post #7

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They’ve been preparing for this day for 5 decades, and I wouldn’t believe this administrations propaganda if they claimed the sky was blue.

>They’ve been preparing for this day for 5 decades...

So have the USA & Israel I suspect.

Re: Iran launched unsuccessful attack on UK's Diego Garcia

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Post by kortilla »

cardanome wrote: post #111
netsharc wrote: post #46

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Unfortunately it's we who will pay the price, with "we" being the entire world, considering the destruction of a lot of oil production infrastructure will cause a price hike for everything.

Well China is still getting Iranian oil no problem. We in the West, well we are aiding the US in this war by allowing it to operate from military bases in our countries. We deserve it for looking the other way while Israel has been mass murdering Palestinians for more than two years now. At least Spain showed some guts. Of course it will also potentially cause suffering in the global south but that is on those that s…

How is China getting that oil without problem? Something like 90% of it when through Kharg island which is now rubble.

Re: Iran launched unsuccessful attack on UK's Diego Garcia

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Post by extraduder_ire »

AndrewKemendo wrote: post #84
10xDev wrote: post #65

Can we just leave countries alone, like we do with North Korea?

The reason people leave North Korea alone is because they have nuclear weapon(s)

Prior to that, they had thousands of artillery pieces pointed at Seoul the presumed backing of China if the Korean war resumed.

Re: Iran launched unsuccessful attack on UK's Diego Garcia

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Post by typon »

gizajob wrote: post #69
cardanome wrote: post #22

Accusing Iran of "lashing out" and being "reckless" by attacking US bases while the US and Israel literally murder school children, bomb hospitals and assassinate state leaders is rich. It didn't have to be this way but they decided this to turn into a fight of survival for Iran and destroy any option for a peaceful resolution. Now they are going to pay the price.

I can’t be an apologist for what’s going on but the Iranians seemed capable of killing tens of thousands of their own citizens in order to quash an uprising against the regime only weeks before the current events.

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Re: Iran launched unsuccessful attack on UK's Diego Garcia

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Post by srean »

roughly wrote: post #32
AndrewKemendo wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sometimes getting shot down is the goal or at least a test to see what kind of response you’ll get

Iran did the same before the conflict in response to prior Israeli attacks - the two drone waves they sent that were intercepted were both demonstrations of capability, not actual attacks. Unfortunately I’m not sure their current audience is gonna pick up the implied threat.

Iran even has a history of calling in their attacks to ensure no one gets hurt.

I don't think they did it this time, but they have in the past.

Re: Iran launched unsuccessful attack on UK's Diego Garcia

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Post by [deleted] »

jmyeet wrote: post #73
mikeyouse wrote: post #5

Unfortunately this is more interesting than a failed Diego Garcia attack — the late Ayatollah had a self-imposed range limit on the strikes or tests they would carry out. By using IRBMs in this fashion, it’s clear the new regime no longer feels bound by that restriction.. Which is notable since it’s about the same distance from Southern Iran to Diego Garcia (3,800km) as it is from Northern Iran to London.

I'd add that it's also a free opportunity to test IRBM targeting at much longer ranges. The war of choice is really the US's Teutoburg Forest moment.

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