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Meta Horizon Worlds on Meta Quest is being discontinued

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Re: Meta Horizon Worlds on Meta Quest is being discontinued

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Post by m4rtink »

bee_rider wrote: post #81
Raed667 wrote: post #36

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I kept saying to myself, they must be seeing something I'm not... I guess not

VR games are actually kind of neat and fun. But it’s too much of a hassle to set the thing up every time and, I dunno, the association with Facebook is too icky. It would have been really interesting to see what Oculus could have become without getting bought. I do think they were a little neat idea, not at all ready for Facebook sized projects.

With modern inside out tracking headsets (basically camera based SLAM) the setup us none to minimal (clear up some space on the ground so you don't trip over things if not playing seated).

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Post by SchemaLoad »

drivebyhooting wrote: post #68
gcr wrote: post #61

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A phone-first VR platform?

Phone-only The writing has been on the wall for a long time. Very few people want to buy a separate cumbersome face hugger device.

I don't think that's entirely it, they don't want the product facebook is selling. VR Chat is massively more popular than Facebooks offerings.

Though Facebook had impossible goals, they didn't want to make a gaming device, they wanted to make the next smartphone, that everyday people and office workers would use. Which was just unrealistic.

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Post by karmakaze »

tyleo wrote: post #2

Interesting, cutting way back in the product they renamed the whole company for. They feel a bit directionless to me. They are still making money but even their AI attempt feels half hearted. I think they are really trying but I’m not sure they can build the engineering muscle to move in new areas with the brand damage they’ve sustained.

The Meta/Oculus bet was never about VR or gaming. It is to solve Zuck's greatest fear of being beholden to platforms controlled by others. What it was supposed to be was basically what Microsoft missed out on with mobile, losing to Google and Apple. VR and AR could be that next platform to own and control. They would love to have all the data that Google and Apple enjoy. That's what Quest -> Horizon was about, change a gaming device into a mainstream entertainment and work-friendly one. This is all driven out of fear and lack of control. It would suck for them if OpenAI owns the most successful personal AI device.

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Post by p_j_w »

paxys wrote: post #79

It’s wild how much mismanagement Zuck is able to get away with just because he controls majority voting shares in Meta. At this point all of the missteps by the company in AR/VR, AI and everything else can directly be traced back to him. Half-baked vision, massive spending and no accountability. The company desperately needs a Sundar/Satya type leader.

>The company desperately needs a Sundar/Satya type leader.

For the sake of the world's sanity, I'd rather see them go belly up.

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Post by SchemaLoad »

riskable wrote: post #99
Eufrat wrote: post #35

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> VR is so good and still in it's infancy. I believe 30% of the population cannot use VR in any way shape or form because your inner ear has decided the floor is the only place you can be.

FYI: This is usually solved by placing a fan on the floor in front of your boundary (designated play area). This isn't just a "community tip", it's been studied: https://www.computer.org/csdl/journal/tg/2025/05/10916971/24...

It's interesting, but this is the kind of barrier that makes Zuck's idea of everyone using VR all the time everywhere impossible. Putting a fan in the space is the kind of hack only someone highly motivated to play VR games would do, not someone who wants to do online shopping.

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Post by mosura »

seneca wrote: post #122
FartyMcFarter wrote: post #111

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But Google actually knows how to do research and how to apply it to products. Meta's AI research hasn't produced anywhere near as many state of the art products /revolutionary achievements.

> But Google actually knows how to do research and how to apply it to products. I have seen basically no evidence of this. Google knows how to do research to create technology. Google is pretty terrible at creating product though.

Which is almost word for word the state Microsoft have been in for over 20 years.

To the point it was a running joke at MSR.

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Post by andybak »

Eufrat wrote: post #108
andybak wrote: post #48

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Even for games or experiences with no artificial locomotion whatsoever?

Yes, my understanding (and I suspect the reason why the airflow experiment worked) is that a large part of the reason this happens is because of a mismatch between the output from the vestibular and visual systems. So, the automated defenses of your body freak out and go into a defensive mode. I think that ~30% of the population just has more sensitivity to the mismatch.

But surely that requires (virtual) player movement in VR for there to be a mismatch?
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