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Node.js needs a virtual file system
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Re: Node.js needs a virtual file system
#142Most of the 4 justifications mentioned sound like mitigations of otherwise bad design decisions. JavaScript in the browser went down this path for the longest time where new standards were introduced only to solve for stupid people instead of actually introducing new capabilities that were otherwise unachievable. I do see some original benefits to a VFS though, bad application decisions aside, but they are exceedingl…
Like indexedDB but in Node?
Re: Node.js needs a virtual file system
#143Earlier quoted context omitted.
Large PRs could follow the practices that the Linux kernel dev lists follow. Sometimes large subsystem changes could be carried separately for a while by the submitter for testing and maintenance before being accepted in theory, reviewed, and if ready, then merged. While the large code changes were maintained, they were often split up into a set of semantically meaningful commits for purposes of review and maintenanc…
Nobody wants to review AI-generated code (unless we are paid for doing so). Open source is fun, that's why people do it for free... adding AI to the mix is just insulting to some, and boring to others. Like, why on earth would I spent hours reviewing your PR that you/Claude took 5 minutes to write? I couldn't care less if it improves (best case scenario) my open source codebase, I simply don't enjoy the imbalance.
Why do you care how much effort it took the engineer to make it? If there was a huge amount of tedium that they used Claude Code for, then reviewed and cleaned up so that it’s indistinguishable from whatever you’d expect from a human; what’s it to you?
Not everyone has the same motivations. I’ve done open source for fun, I’ve done it to unblock something at work, I’ve done it to fix something that annoys me.
If your project is gaining useful functionality, that seems like a win.
Re: Node.js needs a virtual file system
#144What's special about node.js here? Does golang, C#, python, ruby, java, etc... have a virtual file system?
I get it, I've implemented things for tests, I'm just wondering if this shouldn't be solved at an OS level.
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Let's put this another way, my code does effectively, child_process.spawn('something-that-reads-and-write-a-file')
now I'm back to the same issue. To test I need a virtual file system. Node providing one won't help.
Re: Node.js needs a virtual file system
#145What's special about node.js here? Does golang, C#, python, ruby, java, etc... have a virtual file system? I get it, I've implemented things for tests, I'm just wondering if this shouldn't be solved at an OS level. --- update Let's put this another way, my code does effectively, child_process.spawn('something-that-reads-and-write-a-file') now I'm back to the same issue. To test I need a virtual file system. Node prov…
Go actually does https://pkg.go.dev/embed
I do think it's more painful to distribute files when you're a distributed as a single binary vs scripts, since the latter has to figure out bundling of files anyway.
But still - it does exist
Re: Node.js needs a virtual file system
#146Earlier quoted context omitted.
> if it's your job, it's a bit different and you may have to do so Oh I'd use an llm to generate large amounts of feedback and request changes!
Imagine if every profession reasoned liked that when doing something they don't enjoy.
Imagine fighting fire with fire. You don't have to take shit lying down.
Re: Node.js needs a virtual file system
#147Earlier quoted context omitted.
Nobody wants to review AI-generated code (unless we are paid for doing so). Open source is fun, that's why people do it for free... adding AI to the mix is just insulting to some, and boring to others. Like, why on earth would I spent hours reviewing your PR that you/Claude took 5 minutes to write? I couldn't care less if it improves (best case scenario) my open source codebase, I simply don't enjoy the imbalance.
Why do you care how much effort it took the engineer to make it? If there was a huge amount of tedium that they used Claude Code for, then reviewed and cleaned up so that it’s indistinguishable from whatever you’d expect from a human; what’s it to you? Not everyone has the same motivations. I’ve done open source for fun, I’ve done it to unblock something at work, I’ve done it to fix something that annoys me. If your…
Because sometimes programming is an art and we want people to do it as if it was something they cared about.
I play chess and this is a bit like that. Why do I play against humans? Because I want to face another person like me and see what strategies they can come up with.
Of course any chess bot is going to play better, but that's not the point
Re: Node.js needs a virtual file system
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We call it a slip slop at work, it's ok to slip some slop if it's "our" slop :-)
> I pointed the AI at the tedious parts, the stuff that makes a 14k-line PR possible but no human wants to hand-write: implementing every fs method variant (sync, callback, promises), wiring up test coverage, and generating docs. Is it slop if it is carefully calculated? I tire of hearing people use slop to mean anything AI, even when it is carefully reviewed.
Was 14k lines carefully reviewed? Seems unlikely.
Re: Node.js needs a virtual file system
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The submitted code must adhere to either of (a), (b), (c), and separately a (d) clause of: https://github.com/nodejs/node/blob/main/CONTRIBUTING.md#dev... If submitter picks (a) they assert that they wrote the code themselves and have right to submit it under project's license. If (b) the code was taken from another place with clear license terms compatible with the project's license. If (c) contribution was written…
Not sure if you are intentionally misrepresenting (a), but here is the full text (a) The contribution was created in whole or in part by me and I have the right to submit it under the open source license indicated in the file; or
That seems exclusive of LLMs, as the user didn't create the contribution, the LLM did.
Re: Node.js needs a virtual file system
#150Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Most obviously, Java has JDBC. I think .NET has an equivalent. Drivers are needed but they're often first party, coming directly from the DB vendor itself. So it's an external dependency that is not part of Java. It doesn't really matter if the code comes from the vendor or not. Especially for OpenSource databases.
DBMS vendor providing the client is nice. At least if you're using pg-native in Node, that's just a wrapper around the Postgres-owned libpq, but I've run into small breaking updates before that I don't feel would've happened if Postgres maintained both.
But that’s not Node’s fault surely? Shouldn’t Postgres be providing an NPM module given the popularity of Node?