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Office.eu launches as Europe's sovereign office platform

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I need to learn this skill of producing nothing and pretending I have. It seems to be very rewarding, financially speaking.

Really, just lack shame and sell something you do not have and bet that you can get it before anyone really presses too hard. It's an incredible thing to see.

But I'd think I'd get in trouble for not delivering it

Re: Office.eu launches as Europe's sovereign office platform

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And, oddly, a terminal emulator.

1980s office suites very commonly included terminal emulators, because they were in high-demand back then Most large enterprises, you’d have core business applications running on a mainframe or minicomputer or Unix host, and you’d need a terminal emulator to access them from your PC/microcomputer. A lot of places used mainframe/minicomputer-based email/calendar (e.g. IBM PROFS, DISOSS, SNADS, Office/36, OfficeVision;…

In fact, MS-DOS was initially developed on mainframe/micros and targeted the IBM PC via cross compilation and link cable, they weren't doing it directly.

Re: Office.eu launches as Europe's sovereign office platform

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I laud the attempt and I think it's important there are more projects that try to compete with their American counterparts. I do want to gently note that if your entire pitch is "we are a bold, independent European alternative that liberates you from the hegemony of the established American players," maybe don't name your product the exact same thing as the product you're replacing? "Office." They named it "Office."

Office is just like using Xerox for copiers, Tempo for paper handkerchiefs, Excel for spredsheets, hoover for vacum cleaners,.... some names stick on the common mind.

Re: Office.eu launches as Europe's sovereign office platform

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post #6

I laud the attempt and I think it's important there are more projects that try to compete with their American counterparts. I do want to gently note that if your entire pitch is "we are a bold, independent European alternative that liberates you from the hegemony of the established American players," maybe don't name your product the exact same thing as the product you're replacing? "Office." They named it "Office."

What I get out of that pitch is "use us because we're local to you, and possibly because you're required to, not because we're and good, or that we'll even try". I mostly interact with smaller contributors to their field, and they tend to be unique and bold, because that's what is needed to be competitive. When they get their uniqueness and boldness out of just being who they are, it doesn't tend to foster the type o…

The way we are now, it is a liability to rely on foreign technology for anything critical, we should be back to the cold war days, were plenty of countries had their own computers, operating systems, programming languages.

It is going to be pleasant? No, and it is going to take a few decades, however we cannot afford to have kill switches in the hands of foreign nations, even if their software is the best in the planet.

Re: Office.eu launches as Europe's sovereign office platform

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post #81

This is just a Nextcloud rebrand with a confusing domain name. It claims "Core is [100%] Open Source" but no source code is provided beyond what's already available in the upstream projects, and it's unlikely that there will be (as this happens a lot). It's a one-man project without a track record or certifications based out of a shared office space [1]. And don't get me wrong: there's nothing wrong with starting a b…

So it is like any other "Sovereign European Tech" project out there.

Re: Office.eu launches as Europe's sovereign office platform

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post #20

Good luck to them, but without an equivalent to Microsoft Access it's not really a replacement for Microsoft Office for many power users. (Yes, I'm aware that Access has some weaknesses as a database but for quick-and-dirty custom applications it's still the easiest platform out there.)

In 25 years I have never seen anyone use Microsoft Access in earnest. For the overwhelming majority of users I do not think this is an issue. The last time I used it was when studying for CLAiT Plus.

We used it at Altitude Software, as one of the possible database backends for our platform, there were indee enough customers that it was a requirement to also support it on our ODBC configuration.

During the MS-DOS => Windows transitions, some folks moved from doing xBase development into VB, or Access, instead of CA Objects or FoxPro.

Re: Office.eu launches as Europe's sovereign office platform

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post #101

Is this by some random company that happens to rent an address in Hague? And even that is uncertain because there's no actual address except a vague OSM pin. And no company name either. This seems untrustworthy, double so for a product that claims to prioritize transparency. > Our headquarters are in The Netherlands (The Hague). Contact us to book a meeting or ask any questions. source: https://office.eu/contact

Sounds like when there was that news of " Europe is creating a social media website called 'W' to compete with X" and it just turned out it was some random tiny company.

Every time you hear about European alternative you can expect similar scenario.

Re: Office.eu launches as Europe's sovereign office platform

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To preface, I am Swedish. But I work in IT and Office 365 is not "Office suite online" anymore. Office 365 started with running Exchange in the cloud by MS as it is a PITA for IT. That was basically it. Office 365 is now: - Office suite, both online and desktop apps (Vital for full feature Excel) - Entra for Users, Groups and Policy, SSO, conditional access, MFA (Entra is actually Azure AD, not sure if this is still…

Many businesses don't need 100% of Office 365, in fact I will assert that if they aren't listed on DAX, or similar indexes, they most likely only need Word and Excel.
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