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Hollywood Enters Oscars Weekend in Existential Crisis

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Post by bojan »

sdoering wrote: post #120
Detrytus wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can watch a movie without popcorn, you know. Not only cheaper but also healthier. This American obsession with popcorn always seemed weird to me.

German here. I have never not had popcorn when going to the movies in my younger days. It is just part of the experience. But in my days it was around 12€ for a ticket, popcorn and a coke. And there were cinema days with special deals. Or cheap sneak previews. I would never go when paying for me and my SO is equivalent of one of my subscriptions for a year.

I don't think that math checks out as the subscriptions got way more expensive as well.

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Post by gzread »

rishabhaiover wrote: post #100

So many more products are competing for finite attention now. And the solution to that problem is not to productize your commodity imo, art created for the sake of selling is not art.

If you don't productize something you won't make money and then you'll starve and die.

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Post by lucaspm98 »

dominotw wrote: post #79
woeirua wrote: post #7

$100 to go to the movies for a family of four. No thanks. There’s no mystery why the movies are dying. They’ve priced themselves out and then they give away the product on streaming several months later anyways. If they want theaters to come back then they’ll have to put movies behind a paywall again.

thats so much cheaper for a family of 4 for 3 hrs compared to other options. what are the other cheaper options? going to free parks and museums? i am sure going to free museum will be a big hit with the kids :]

People are living in entirely different cost of living realities outside of NYC and the Bay Area.

Within 5 miles of me with 2 adults and 2 kids and $100, you could go to a trampoline park, ropes course, bowling, hours at an arcade, water park, race go-karts, several months of pool membership, or 5+ museums. Possibly 2 of those activities.

For free there’s dozens of playgrounds, courts and fields for any sport, community and religious-sponsored events, and after you can get a nice sit down meal with money leftover from your $100 budget.

$100 would be above many families entire entertainment budget for a week.

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Post by gzread »

m-hodges wrote: post #93
jimbo808 wrote: post #86

Maybe I'm insane or it's my age, but I can't watch new movies/shows without just seeing propaganda agendas at every turn. Really kills it for me.

Should art not of a point of view?

Some is reasonable and then some is obviously just what rich people want you to think. Like America paid Hollywood a lot to always show the US armies being macho and always on the right side of wars.

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Post by the_af »

awongh wrote: post #118
the_af wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> What I meant is that I don't see truly indie-produced feature films reach the zeitgeist anymore. Maybe they shouldn't. Maybe word of mouth from among those in your circle of friends that have good taste is enough. I'm not sure that blockbuster cinema reaching millions is tenable, or a good thing. As for "watching content"... yuck, I hate the word "content".

> Maybe they shouldn't looking at the last 4 years of world events, I think some people already have some nostalgia for a shared cultural experience, instead of everyone being in their own algorithmically and socio-culturally / demographically segregated bubbles. Or maybe it's just looking back with rose colored glasses shrug

To be honest, I'm ambivalent about it. I do value a shared experience (contradicting somewhat what I wrote earlier). I don't have everything figured out...

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Post by desireco42 »

WarmWash wrote: post #96

My fiance mentioned we haven't gone to see a movie in theaters in years and it would be fun to go. I checked what was playing and: 2 tickets, 2 sodas, 1 popcorn. $86 dollars. Don't know if I'll ever go to a conventional movie theater again.

I can confirm this, it is stupid how much just basic outing to watch a movie costs. I have 3 kids... I am in Chicago but it is like this everywhere

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Post by magicalhippo »

Jtsummers wrote: post #108
WarmWash wrote: post #96

My fiance mentioned we haven't gone to see a movie in theaters in years and it would be fun to go. I checked what was playing and: 2 tickets, 2 sodas, 1 popcorn. $86 dollars. Don't know if I'll ever go to a conventional movie theater again.

Where is that? Tickets here are only $7-10 each (except maybe some IMAX or similar showings) and two drinks and popcorn would be $15-25 for two people (size dependent). This is in Colorado. EDIT: I was going off of memory, but matinee/child/senior pricing is apparently $9.75 at the theater I usually go to, evening is $13.25 (I never go in the evening, had forgotten what that price was). They have a two drink and popc…

Not op, but in Norway, so includes 25% VAT.

IMAX opening week is a lot, $25-35. After a while it can drop to $20 or so. Regular is more like $20-25 opening week and drops to $12-15.

I don't bother with popcorn and soda, it's grossly over priced. Like $10 for a small popcorn the size of a pint. I buy a 0.5L bottle at the grocery store next to the cinema and some M (our M&Ms), maybe $10.

Though lately I've been going a lot to the local cinemateque. Not only are tickets around $7 regardless, they mostly show classic movies so seldom worse than the new stuff. They show popular movies too, recently saw Heat there, first time I saw it at the big screen since the premiere. Still packed a punch.

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Post by dredmorbius »

bilbo0s wrote: post #105
simonklitj wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, sure, but they’re both in the entertainment space.

I think I have to agree with HN User Blell here. I mean, the NFL, at root, is in the business of entertainment also, and it makes more than Hollywood as well all in. But why would Hollywood care?

NFL and related sport are, at least putatively, unscripted.

Which might be raised in relation to gaming as well, but I'd argue that gaming elements share much more in common with cinema, particularly in the contexts of world design, character development, backstory, and of course, CGI.

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