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RAM kits are now sold with one fake RAM stick alongside a real one

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Re: RAM kits are now sold with one fake RAM stick alongside a real one

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post #53

I miss the days when most people had a vanilla looking computer. You wouldn't have felt out of place at the LAN party lugging in your dad's old Packard Bell tower that you used for your gaming rig. We still appreciated visually stunning PCs. Not just for the works of art that they were, but also for the DIY skill and ethic you were actually required to demonstrate to build and mod them. Nowadays, it's all just "RGB b…

I was putting together a new PC in 2024 after not having built one for ~7 years, and browsing for motherboards, I kept saying "just give me an ugly green one, damn it!"

Re: RAM kits are now sold with one fake RAM stick alongside a real one

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post #53

I miss the days when most people had a vanilla looking computer. You wouldn't have felt out of place at the LAN party lugging in your dad's old Packard Bell tower that you used for your gaming rig. We still appreciated visually stunning PCs. Not just for the works of art that they were, but also for the DIY skill and ethic you were actually required to demonstrate to build and mod them. Nowadays, it's all just "RGB b…

I was putting together a new PC in 2024 after not having built one for ~7 years, and browsing for motherboards, I kept saying "just give me an ugly green one, damn it!"

I did the same in 2023. I got the Asus Q470:

https://www.asus.com/motherboards-components/motherboards/cs...

I added a Intel Core i7 10700K (with a nice low-profile Noctua cooler/fan) with 32GB of memory and a 512GB SSD and I'm using onboard graphics which is just fine for a daily driver "office" type machine running Linux. Very happy with it.

Re: RAM kits are now sold with one fake RAM stick alongside a real one

#144
post #53

I miss the days when most people had a vanilla looking computer. You wouldn't have felt out of place at the LAN party lugging in your dad's old Packard Bell tower that you used for your gaming rig. We still appreciated visually stunning PCs. Not just for the works of art that they were, but also for the DIY skill and ethic you were actually required to demonstrate to build and mod them. Nowadays, it's all just "RGB b…

I was putting together a new PC in 2024 after not having built one for ~7 years, and browsing for motherboards, I kept saying "just give me an ugly green one, damn it!"

Manufacturers have no incentive to offer barebone products anymore, BOM price difference is negligible. Its $0.5 of leds and "fancy" solder mask colors become free at scale.

Re: RAM kits are now sold with one fake RAM stick alongside a real one

#145

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Meanwhile I moved platform from AM4 at exactly the wrong moment, and downgraded RAM (temporarily, I hope) from 192GB to 96GB and feel like I'm missing half my workspace when I need it.

96bb is like 1% of population. this is not normal. optimize your stack mate.

Do you even LLM bro

Re: RAM kits are now sold with one fake RAM stick alongside a real one

#146
post #53

I miss the days when most people had a vanilla looking computer. You wouldn't have felt out of place at the LAN party lugging in your dad's old Packard Bell tower that you used for your gaming rig. We still appreciated visually stunning PCs. Not just for the works of art that they were, but also for the DIY skill and ethic you were actually required to demonstrate to build and mod them. Nowadays, it's all just "RGB b…

I imported my motherboard from US because all we have here have rgb

Re: RAM kits are now sold with one fake RAM stick alongside a real one

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post #9
post #8

At least they are upfront about it. I don't see the point though even for a gaming setup, as the fake modules will still reduce airflow. Also, gaming boards usually have 4 slots (in 2 banks). I would fill at least 2, so I'd rather have a matched kit of 2 modules, and 2 separate fillers, if I did use them. It is quite common to leave 2 memory slots empty (of RAM) because many boards can't drive the memory at top speed…

And stuffing your PC case with various disco lights doesn't affect its performance either. But an evidently large portion of gamers are, well, special people.

I like it. I don't actually do it myself, the only lights in my case are the ones on my 4090 FE (just white ones, the FE are very understated designs). But I don't really mind it either. I like cyberpunk aesthetics.

I do often dress myself up with RGB lights however :)

Re: RAM kits are now sold with one fake RAM stick alongside a real one

#148
post #8

At least they are upfront about it. I don't see the point though even for a gaming setup, as the fake modules will still reduce airflow. Also, gaming boards usually have 4 slots (in 2 banks). I would fill at least 2, so I'd rather have a matched kit of 2 modules, and 2 separate fillers, if I did use them. It is quite common to leave 2 memory slots empty (of RAM) because many boards can't drive the memory at top speed…

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Re: RAM kits are now sold with one fake RAM stick alongside a real one

#149

This is the reason people hate marketers.

This is the reason I hate lobbyists.

There is no sensible reason for the RAM market to be priced the way it is. It's obviously unchecked corruption. There's clearly more value in allowing that corruption than exposing and punishing it.

Re: RAM kits are now sold with one fake RAM stick alongside a real one

#150
post #87

How about we use all that AI and start doing some serious optimizations to existing software? Reduce memory requirements by half, or even more.

Plenty of people do. AI is one of the few major general technological breakthroughs, comparable to the Internet and electricity . It's potentially applicable to everything , which is why right now everyone is trying to apply it to everything. Including developing new optimization algorithms, optimizing optimizing compilers, optimizing applications, optimizing systems, optimizing hardware, ... Big AI vendors are at th…

> comparable to the Internet and electricity.

It will be when it actually exists.

> which is why right now everyone is trying to apply it to everything

And are any of them actually succeeding? Where are the new AI businesses? Where's the new wealth and money? Where's the one guy AI pioneer doing what used to take 100s?

> because they're the ones who actually pay for the AI revolution

Their customers do. The customers are getting ripped off. They want the AI revolution, what they got was a crappy search engine, and copyright whitewashing service instead.

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