Live data from Hacker News

Launch HN: RunAnywhere (YC W26) – Faster AI Inference on Apple Silicon

github.com

141–150 of 167 posts

Re: Launch HN: RunAnywhere (YC W26) – Faster AI Inference on Apple Silicon

#141
I am interested in MetalRT. I am an indie builder, focused mostly on building products with LLM assistance that run locally. Like: https://github.com/brainless/dwata

I would be interested if MetalRT can be used by other products, if you have some plans for open source products?

Re: Launch HN: RunAnywhere (YC W26) – Faster AI Inference on Apple Silicon

#142

Have you tried any really big models on a mac studio? I'm wondering what latency is like for big qwens if there's enough memory.

I am running 80b Qwen coder next 4bit quant MLX version on a 96GB M3 MacBook and it responds quickly, almost immediately. I can fit the model + 128k context comfortably into the memory

Re: Launch HN: RunAnywhere (YC W26) – Faster AI Inference on Apple Silicon

#143
post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sorry, but, this is not really a confidence inspiring response. Accepting the mistake and fixing the leak altogether would have been the better way to handle this. This is a developer forum, we all make mistakes. Framing it as bait just sounds like bad PR management. How can we trust your product if you can't fulfil basic security 101? Not being harsh but this kind of lax response for a serious mistake is not accepta…

my earlier reply was too glib. Even though the key had no usable balance, it still should not have been exposed. We’re removing it now and fixing the demo flow so this doesn’t happen again. Thanks for calling it out. Cheers!

Hey Shubham, I can still see the API keys in https://www.runanywhere.ai/web-demo, FWIW. A simple proxy of the request from the frontend to your own API and then to the vendor API would solve this. Also recommend rate limiting on the same. Happy to help if you need further assistance.

Re: Launch HN: RunAnywhere (YC W26) – Faster AI Inference on Apple Silicon

#145

Earlier quoted context omitted.

RunAnywhere builds software that makes AI models run fast locally on devices instead of sending requests to the cloud. Right now, our focus is Apple Silicon. Today there are two parts: MetalRT - our proprietary inference engine for Apple Silicon. It speeds up local LLM, speech-to-text, and text-to-speech workloads. We’re expanding model coverage over time, with more modalities and broader support coming next. RCLI -…

How does it compare for models of any meaningful size? These 0.6B-4B models are, frankly, just amusing curiosities. But commonly regarded as too error prone for any non-demo work. The reason why people are buying Apple Silicon today is because the unified memory allows them to run larger models that are cost prohibitive to run otherwise (usually requiring Nvidia server GPUs). It would be much more interesting to see…

Agreed. The real value proposition of Apple Silicon for local inference is running models that won't fit on consumer GPUs. I run Qwen 70B 4-bit on an M2 Max 96GB through llama.cpp and it's usable — not fast, but the unified memory means it actually loads. Would be interested to see MetalRT benchmarks at that scale, since the architectural advantages (fused kernels, reduced dispatch overhead) should matter more as models get memory-bandwidth-bound.

Re: Launch HN: RunAnywhere (YC W26) – Faster AI Inference on Apple Silicon

#147
post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> "open safari" (safari opens, voice says: "I opened safari") "navigate to google.com in safari" (nothing happens, voice says: "I navigated to google.com") So you’re describing a core broken feature. Application breaking at easiest test.

Fair criticism. The action executed on the LLM side but didn't translate to the correct macOS action, the model hallucinated success instead of routing to the open_url tool. This is a known limitation with small LLMs (0.6B-1.2B) doing tool calling. They sometimes confuse "I know what you want" with "I did it." Upgrading to a larger model improves tool-calling accuracy significantly. We're also working on verification…

> This is a known limitation with small LLMs (0.6B-1.2B) doing tool calling.

To me this is this nut to crack, wrt tool calling and locally running inference. This seems like a really cool project and I'm going to dive around a little later but if it's hallucinating for something as basic as this makes me think it's more of POC stage right now (to echo other sentiment here).

Re: Launch HN: RunAnywhere (YC W26) – Faster AI Inference on Apple Silicon

#148

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ha, not yet. Metal 4 is interesting and we're keeping an eye on it. MetalRT currently targets Metal 3.1 GPU compute because that's where we get the most control over the decode pipeline. Neural Engine / ANE is powerful for fixed-shape inference (vision, classification) but autoregressive LLM decode, where you're generating one token at a time with dynamic KV cache, doesn't map as cleanly to ANE today. That said, if M…

> Neural Engine / ANE is powerful for fixed-shape inference (vision, classification) but autoregressive LLM decode, where you're generating one token at a time with dynamic KV cache, doesn't map as cleanly to ANE today. What does the ANE have to with this? Neural Engine (ANE) and the M5 Neural Accelerator (NAX) are not the same thing. NAX can accelerate LLM prefill quite dramatically, although autoregressive decoding…

Good correction, thanks. You're right that NAX and ANE are distinct, I shouldn't have conflated them. NAX's ability to accelerate LLM prefill is exactly the kind of capability that could complement MetalRT's decode-focused pipeline. Appreciate the clarification on the Metal 4 / Tahoe requirement too.

Re: Launch HN: RunAnywhere (YC W26) – Faster AI Inference on Apple Silicon

#149

Earlier quoted context omitted.

RunAnywhere builds software that makes AI models run fast locally on devices instead of sending requests to the cloud. Right now, our focus is Apple Silicon. Today there are two parts: MetalRT - our proprietary inference engine for Apple Silicon. It speeds up local LLM, speech-to-text, and text-to-speech workloads. We’re expanding model coverage over time, with more modalities and broader support coming next. RCLI -…

How does it compare for models of any meaningful size? These 0.6B-4B models are, frankly, just amusing curiosities. But commonly regarded as too error prone for any non-demo work. The reason why people are buying Apple Silicon today is because the unified memory allows them to run larger models that are cost prohibitive to run otherwise (usually requiring Nvidia server GPUs). It would be much more interesting to see…

Fair criticism. Our benchmarks are on small models because MetalRT was built for the voice pipeline use case, where decode latency on 0.6B-4B models is the bottleneck.

You're right that the bigger opportunity on Apple Silicon is large models that don't fit on consumer GPUs. Expanding MetalRT to 7B, 14B, 32B+ is on the roadmap. The architectural advantages(that MetalRT has) should matter even more at that scale where everything becomes memory-bandwidth-bound.

We'll publish benchmarks on larger models as we add support. If you have a specific model/size you'd want to see first, that helps us prioritize.

Re: Launch HN: RunAnywhere (YC W26) – Faster AI Inference on Apple Silicon

#150

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not yet with MetalRT, right now we support models up to ~4B parameters (Qwen3 4B, Llama 3.2 3B, LFM2.5 1.2B). These are optimized for the voice pipeline use case where decode speed and latency matter more then model size. Expanding to larger models (7B, 14B, 32B) on machines with more unified memory is on the roadmap. The Mac Studio with 192GB would be an interesting target, a 32B model at 4-bit would fit comfortably…

Well it’s just more that I’ve noticed in the agents I’ve built that qwen doesn’t get reliable until around 27b so unless you want to rl small qwen I don’t think I would get much useful help out of it.

That tracks with what we've seen too. For agent workflows with reliable tool calling, you really do need the larger models. Larger model support is a priority for us. Thanks for the data point.
Post reply on HN