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Hisense TVs add unskippable startup ads before live TV

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I guess it's a matter of time until TVs include GSM modem for ads and DRM.

Cars already do, and the solution is to remove the modem.

If a car is equipped with 'eCall' from the factory in the EU a missing modem is seen as a safety defect and fails the yearly inspection which is required for road use.

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european TVs aren’t that much better

Exactly that is my point. They could be. There is no incentive to buy Philips over any chinese brand if they all are going to spy. But it could be different. Like how Oneplus allowed Cyanogen on their devices.

There are no real European TVs anymore. The Philips TV brand is Chinese owned for more than a decade now.

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> How would you look at the panel, then? You only view your TV from inside the Faraday cage, of course.

Living bunker-style in a SCIF just for TV? Nah!

Don't forget your car. Definitely can't trust that without airgapping it.

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Living bunker-style in a SCIF just for TV? Nah!

Don't forget your car. Definitely can't trust that without airgapping it.

I'm using a nukkular subterrene. No worries there.

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According to Root My TV, it seems like all methods of rooting recent LG TVs have been patched. [1] https://rootmy.tv/

You mean there is no way to break it even though you have physical access to it? How is that possible?

We don't really have physical access to it - in the sense that on your desktop computer you can boot off a usb drive and reinstall the OS. There is no way you can boot your TV off external media. So you have to hack the existing OS while running it.

The way rooting working on a TV is that you run some javascript in the TV browser that targets some vulnerability in the browser/OS to run some code that then gives you a way in. Or if it has a USB port (to watch videos off a usb drive), you play a specifically crafted video that targets some vulnerability in the media players, to again install some program that then lets you do more serious changes to the OS.

Over time, LG fixes these vulnerabilities.

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Ughh.. I recently turned on my 1000EUR+ LG Oled TV to find that it had automatically installed a Copilot app.. And keeps doing it every few days. Is there any smart TV that I can actually just use a TV how I want? Or am I reduced to buying an Apple TV device and unplugging the TV from the internet entirely ?

IF its an android, connect to it via ADB and disable all the BS apps, even launcher. I am using projectivity launcher on mine, even has child lock which we really need. No ads or popups etc at all. YouTube is all we watch on this TV anyway, and retro gaming and movies. I also have Nvidia Shield connected to it, that one is setup the same way.

Do any Android-based TVs allow you to install and use a custom launcher?

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> Pro tip for devices that refuse to simply remove working WiFi credentials Is there examples of such devices? AFAIK every smart TV can be switched to HDMI input without being ever connected to the Internet.

My parents got a new smart TV; if you don't give it wifi access it will nag repeatedly about it. Very annoying, and it only takes one time for it to go "Yay! I'll store these forever now." (It will also wheedle you to re-enable the AI features and telemetry if you turn those off. Which you do like eight levels of confusingly and scarily named submenus.)

Tell your parents that with this stuff enabled, it's giving another way for scammers to steal their data to use against them.

I.e. We're from the internet company. Really, you are? Yes, didn't you watch XYZ on Netflix last night? Oh, right, ok, here's my password.

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What do you do with this living space without a TV? Serious question from someone who grew up with a TV companion. I imagine this is what the current generation feels when thinking about smartphones.

>What do you do with this living space without a TV? My main social space is my front porch, which is a semi-enclosed dogrun with ample seating (no TV). My "living room" doesn't have a couch, which naturally forces you towards seating (aforementioned outside). There is a small table, with two chairs only; bookshelves, artwork, and projectspace mostly for standing room only . Not really much of a socialite, but I real…

While I sadly have to have a phone for some things (Okta, for example, for work) and in general for phone calls / texting, I try to install as few apps as possible. If there's a web interface and I don't need the info with me, I'll use the web interface.

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TV's last a long time. Get one with a bypass today and you can be set for decades.

I have had my Sharp 65" TV since 2012. It works great, has multiple HDMI ports and a USB port, but I am worried that one day I will need a new TV.

Copy that. I have a 2007 Kuro Elite 50" Plasma whose picture is still so beautiful after 19 years it's almost 3D. Not.One.Repair/Problem/EVER. I dread ever having to buy a new TV.
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