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Re: Iranians describe scenes of catastrophe after Tehran's oil depots bombed

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Post by orwin » Mon, Mar 09, 2026, 1:33 PM UTC

tgma wrote: post #93

orwin wrote: post #88

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Every weeks that number increases. Two weeks ago it was 30k, a week ago it was 35k, now it's 40k+, but OSINT sources keep the number around 15k (including 1.3 k from the Iranian government own forces) and don't move it up. I'm pretty sure the real number is higher than the one OSINT resources can give, considering the uprising and repression also happened in small, less connected cities, but the constant increase is…

There have been numbers as high as 90k reported initially, so I wouldn't say it is "moving up" across time but across sources. There is no clear data, but at this point 30-32k appears to be the lower bound estimate over which there's a consensus. Likely to be higher.

Maybe, but I distinctly remember the numbers 15 up to 30k two weeks ago from the UN Iran watchdog.

Then a week ago, a US-based watchdog let the number 35k float, and all of the sudden that's the number used by US department of state. And now the number you just threw is 40k.

Meanwhile, the OSINT community confirmed deaths are still around 15k. I will admit, the bombing doesn't help because we cross data from funerals and morgues/hospitals, and now we will have to distinguish bombing victims from repression victims, which in some areas (southeast and west mostly) is difficult.

Re: Iranians describe scenes of catastrophe after Tehran's oil depots bombed

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Post by spiderfarmer » Mon, Mar 09, 2026, 1:36 PM UTC

kuerbel wrote: post #102

kome wrote: post #31

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in what Europe are you living sorry? The only one outspoken against the war have been the Spanish. UK, Italy and Germany are on it - offering logistical support and everything the US needs.

I fear that the push for increasing defense spending in Europe was in preparation for a new NATO alliance case. They are certainly going to try it.

Why fear a hypothetical conspiracy? When there's enough reason to increase budgets because of a multi year war that's being fought right at our borders by a mad man, who has shown his willingness to attack and who enjoys the sympathy of the administration that was responsible for 62% of Nato's spending?

Hello?

Re: Iranians describe scenes of catastrophe after Tehran's oil depots bombed

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Post by blini-kot » Mon, Mar 09, 2026, 1:50 PM UTC

"Tehran oil sites on fire as Iran exchanges strikes with Israel and US – video report"

You know, the usual independent and objective framing - its "Iran exchanges strikes", not "Israel and US started a war of aggression amid negotiations and bombed Tehran" or whatever

Re: Iranians describe scenes of catastrophe after Tehran's oil depots bombed

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Post by aa-jv » Mon, Mar 09, 2026, 1:51 PM UTC

tgma wrote: post #56

pzo wrote: post #52

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what stops us to use the same naming and call it USA Regime, Israeli Regime at this point?

Nothing stops you, but I suppose murdering tens of thousands of your own people is a fairly clear delineation that you are not a singular entity?

What do you call a regime which protects cannibal pedophiles?

Re: Iranians describe scenes of catastrophe after Tehran's oil depots bombed

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Post by ghusto » Mon, Mar 09, 2026, 1:59 PM UTC

blini-kot wrote: post #143

"Tehran oil sites on fire as Iran exchanges strikes with Israel and US – video report" You know, the usual independent and objective framing - its "Iran exchanges strikes", not "Israel and US started a war of aggression amid negotiations and bombed Tehran" or whatever

It's the Guardian. Not exactly known for it's unbiased and objective reporting.

Re: Iranians describe scenes of catastrophe after Tehran's oil depots bombed

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Post by spiderfarmer » Mon, Mar 09, 2026, 2:00 PM UTC

blini-kot wrote: post #143

"Tehran oil sites on fire as Iran exchanges strikes with Israel and US – video report" You know, the usual independent and objective framing - its "Iran exchanges strikes", not "Israel and US started a war of aggression amid negotiations and bombed Tehran" or whatever

Earlier today in the NYTimes, this gem of unbiased headlines:

"A U.S. Tomahawk missile hit a naval base beside an Iranian school, video shows."

While in the article:

"A newly released video adds to the evidence that an American missile likely hit an Iranian elementary school where 175 people, many of them children, were reported killed."

So:

"Evidence shows US Tomahawk Missile Killed 175 people after it hits a Iranian elementary school"

Would be more apt.

Re: Iranians describe scenes of catastrophe after Tehran's oil depots bombed

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Post by ghusto » Mon, Mar 09, 2026, 2:03 PM UTC

The moment Trump said he'd like to have a say in the next _Ayatollah_, was when the knife went it.

Listen, we know you weren't in it because you're such a swell guy, we're not stupid. But now we don't even get what we were willing to bend over for in the first place (to get rid of the regime)?!

Re: Iranians describe scenes of catastrophe after Tehran's oil depots bombed

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Post by deeg » Mon, Mar 09, 2026, 2:11 PM UTC

keiferski wrote: post #27

This whole situation made me realize that the mechanism for holding presidents accountable for campaign promises really doesn’t exist. None of this is what people voted for, and is almost directly the opposite. That isn’t a new thing, of course, but this seems like a pretty huge turnaround from what the campaign was about. This seems like a fundamental problem with the system to me. If you can’t count on the candidat…

I think people did vote for this and the proof is that Republicans are still supporting trump almost unequivocally. The senate just voted to not curtail his actions in Iran and only one GOP senator opposed.

Re: Iranians describe scenes of catastrophe after Tehran's oil depots bombed

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Post by jjtwixman » Mon, Mar 09, 2026, 2:24 PM UTC

Devasta wrote: post #55

Regardless of what you feel about the government of Iran, it is not inaccurate to say that country is in a fight for survival against a cabal of child molestors working to bring about the apocalypse. Anything they do in this conflict is justified, anything less than their total victory is a disaster for the world.

This is sort of how I see it. It's so difficult to believe that the USA+Israel winning would be a good thing, if it then means that Trump just invades another country after it. He will not stop until a country stops him. It looks like it could easily be Iran.

Re: Iranians describe scenes of catastrophe after Tehran's oil depots bombed

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Post by myrmidon » Mon, Mar 09, 2026, 2:34 PM UTC

lwansbrough wrote: post #120

Hikikomori wrote: post #117

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They probably should get started on that as it seems to be the only detterent for genocidal regimes like Russia, US and Israel from attacking you.

No. The greater deterrent is to make the world so complexly integrated that such actions carry an enormous cost.

That whole approach has a bad historical track record-- people tought WW1 "impossible" for the exact same reason.

Not only that, but the only way to do this is to stack the risk against yourself in the case it ever fails.

Just look at the EU/Russia energy dependency. There is good reason that no serious nation does this (intentionally) with actually vital goods like their food supply (not even among allies, really).