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Pentagon formally labels Anthropic supply-chain risk

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Re: Pentagon formally labels Anthropic supply-chain risk

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Post by xpe »

adamtaylor_13 wrote: post #82

Writing out a thought I had, someone please critique my reasoning here... What if Anthropic just shrugged, dissolved the company and open-sourced all of the Opus weights? Could this harm OpenAI and advance AI in a reasonable way? Look I know it's an insane idea. I'm just curious what the most unhinged response to this might be.

> I'm just curious what the most unhinged response to this might be.

Are you asking how dangerous open-weight models are? You could start with:

Ryan Greenblatt on the AI Alignment Forum : "When is it important that open-weight models aren't released?" https://www.alignmentforum.org/posts/TeF8Az2EiWenR9APF/when-...

From the Centre for Future Generations : "Can open-weight models ever be safe?" https://cfg.eu/can-open-weight-models-ever-be-safe/

From OpenAI authors, far from neutral : "Estimating Worst-Case Frontier Risks of Open-Weight LLMs" https://arxiv.org/abs/2508.03153

Re: Pentagon formally labels Anthropic supply-chain risk

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Post by pmarreck »

cakealert wrote: post #63

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Congratulations, you are clearly the smartest person on this forum, and I don’t mean that facetiously. The number of naïve comments here is absolutely astounding.

It would be like a spouse proposing restrictions and terms of their access to your phone contingent on you marrying them. Assuming guilt until proven innocent

Re: Pentagon formally labels Anthropic supply-chain risk

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Post by Computer0 »

shimman wrote: post #88
hedayet wrote: post #69

So, DoD has done what it said it would. And OpenAI has jumped on the opportunity. I'm curious what'll openai signatories on notdivided.org do now - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47188473 Remain undivided in spirit while grinding for OpenAI?

They'll do nothing. It's really hard to take the morals of these devs seriously when they're already fine working for, and have a history with, some of the most evil companies in current existence.

And when you suggest unions and worker organization to them they gloat that the company takes better care of them without it. They don't want to be in the same class as the peasantry.

Re: Pentagon formally labels Anthropic supply-chain risk

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Post by yoyohello13 »

martinwright wrote: post #43

Part of me wonders if it was a plan to squeeze between Anthropic & big gov contracts

I'm willing to bet is was a golf course conversation.

"Hey why is the gov using Anthorpic over OpenAI, don't you know how much money I've donated?"

Re: Pentagon formally labels Anthropic supply-chain risk

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Post by Chance-Device »

Anthropic should never have gotten into bed with the military or intelligence services to begin with. They wanted to make a deal with the devil and dictate the terms, that is the problem. If they had stayed out this wouldn’t be happening. Yes, someone else will probably step in and do all the evil you have just refused to do, but that isn’t a reason to instead decide to do it personally.

Note that I give them a lot of credit for trying to stop and to have their own red lines about the use of their technology, and to stick to those red lines to the end.

Re: Pentagon formally labels Anthropic supply-chain risk

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Post by timmmmmmay »

cakealert wrote: post #107
Rudybega wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Anthropic and the military had a contract. The military wanted to change the terms of that contract. Anthropic said no, which is their clearly defined contractual right. They got labeled a supply chain risk. How is this anything other than a shakedown? Does contract law mean anything to this administration?

The other such labeled companies have contracts too.

no, the other such labeled companies are foreign owned firms like Huawei that the government never intended to do business with in the first place

Re: Pentagon formally labels Anthropic supply-chain risk

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Post by shimman »

teachrdan wrote: post #98
keithnz wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

this isn't on topic at all

I think the implication is that democratic presidents are less likely to do dumb shit like this, which harms the economy.

On the contrary, hopefully this gives the next democratic administration ammunition to take down big tech. Might as well classify Meta, Microsoft, Amazon, and Apple as supply-chain risks too with this logic.

Too bad that Congress has abdicated their responsibility to the executive branch, no reason why Congress couldn't have more control over the Pentagon. The President only has legal authority to command forces, not control an entire institution; but this would require Congress actually doing their job and not justifying more corporate welfare forever.

Re: Pentagon formally labels Anthropic supply-chain risk

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Post by parliament32 »

Is there a link to the actual order anywhere? For us FedRAMP folks, the exact order contents actually matter, rather than a journalistic regurgitation. I was hoping one of the links in the article pointed to a source, but they're all just links back to other WSJ pages.

Re: Pentagon formally labels Anthropic supply-chain risk

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Post by llm_nerd »

lePask wrote: post #86
oompydoompy74 wrote: post #16

Exported all my chats and deleted my ChatGPT account yesterday. The current administration not liking you is the strongest signal I could possibly have to go all in on a particular company.

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The job of every software developer is, in essence, to make people unemployed. This is a particularly silly bit of morality to hang on.
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