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Lenovo’s new ThinkPads score 10/10 for repairability

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Post by SV_BubbleTime »

kiddico wrote: post #77
carefree-bob wrote: post #64

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What do you think of the build quality of your Framework? Have you had any issues over the last 3 years?

I'm rocking a framework 13" intel 12th gen still and I love it. The only issue I had was being part of the few that got a batch of bad hinges. I didn't know there was a replacement program I could have used and just replaced them myself with the heavier hinge option. At this point I have every expansion port thing they offer and keep them in my bag. My laptop can have any I/O I want :) pretty cool.

Hmm, framework 13 and Linux… loves nothing more than to drain while off. I’m getting really annoyed by that

Re: Lenovo’s new ThinkPads score 10/10 for repairability

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Post by 0x38B »

idle_zealot wrote: post #52
aleph_minus_one wrote: post #49

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I, as a non-native speaker, don't associate this with LLMs, but with corporate advertising texts.

They're basically the same thing. Machine language, just generated by a different kind of machine, one social, the other a transformer model.

One of the worst places are company "About pages". I've come across new products, some linked here; interested, I click through to the "about us" page, only to find meaningless marketing fluff that tells me zero about the people behind the product. That's a signal to me to close the tab and move on.

Re: Lenovo’s new ThinkPads score 10/10 for repairability

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Post by huddert »

tombert wrote: post #80
huddert wrote: post #61

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Why are they so allergic to >60hz displays though? There is zero chance that I'm buying a laptop with a slideshow display like that in current year.

I've never had an issue with 60hz. 30hz is unusable but 60hz has always been good enough for me; the Sega Genesis and SNES had 60hz and that's always been good enough for me.

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Re: Lenovo’s new ThinkPads score 10/10 for repairability

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Post by 0x38B »

_ache_ wrote: post #57

I switch from ThinkPad to Framework because they couldn't send me a replacement keyboard. They want me to send the keyboard back to get a refund but I never receive it so... I never did get a refund. Later, Framework send me a laptop in 1 week and later a replacement screen in less then a week. It's been 3 years ago now.

My sister just ordered a battery & some hinges for her Framework and they practically overnighted it to us here in Alaska. They included a colorful sheet of stickers, too - fun!

Re: Lenovo’s new ThinkPads score 10/10 for repairability

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Post by Guestmodinfo »

wtallis wrote: post #105
userbinator wrote: post #88

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Never update your BIOS unless you have a specific bug that needs fixed. I remember a Thinkpad BIOS update ended up destroying both undervolting and overclocking, and required a "chip-clip" programmer to revert.

That advice doesn't hold up very well when in recent years we've had multiple instances of a BIOS update being necessary to deal with the problem of "the CPU gets fed too high a voltage and dies prematurely". That's happened to both Intel and AMD desktop CPUs. It's a real problem that BIOS updates for consumer systems never come with a meaningful changelog, so evaluating whether a particular update is a good idea or…

I would strongly advice against buying HP laptops if you want to install linux because MX linux worked well on mine pre-owned HP, Zorin OS worked well but somehow I could not install AntiX linux and secure boot of HP troubled me too much and I could install OpenBSD on it but each time I would restart then it would kernel panic and I would havento reinstall. Combined with a long holiday when I left it at home. Now my HP is practically bricked. It is not starting

Re: Lenovo’s new ThinkPads score 10/10 for repairability

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Post by ed_mercer »

userbinator wrote: post #93

I agree with the other comments here saying that it smells of AI-generated marketing puff-piece --- ThinkPads have always been very repairable, with the official service manuals published (which is more of a guide to disassembly/reassembly, but that's sufficient especially given the availability of (leaked) schematics). Older Dell Latitudes are not too bad either.

ThinkPads have definitely not always been very repairable. The t480 was the last solid option, and it went downhill from there.

Re: Lenovo’s new ThinkPads score 10/10 for repairability

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Post by tombert »

huddert wrote: post #143
tombert wrote: post #80

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I've never had an issue with 60hz. 30hz is unusable but 60hz has always been good enough for me; the Sega Genesis and SNES had 60hz and that's always been good enough for me.

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My toilet seems to work fine, and I think it's 35 years old.

But in general I agree, just with different variables. I'm ok with 60hz but I won't use a screen less than 4K. Part of the reason I bought the ThinkPad is because it was one of the few I could find at a reasonable price that had a 4K screen.

Re: Lenovo’s new ThinkPads score 10/10 for repairability

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Post by bald »

vbezhenar wrote: post #76
tombert wrote: post #51

I have the ThinkPad p16s AMD gen 2. What it lacks in name it makes up for with being the most headache-free computer I have ever had (including a Macbook). Everything works pretty well out of the box, it never really overheats, Linux support required basically no effort with NixOS, the keyboard feels pretty nice, the screen is bright and easy to read, and fortunately I bought it when RAM prices weren't insane so I go…

I own T14s Gen4 Intel and Linux support is perfect, even fingerprint reader works. Zero complaints. I'm mostly using it in clamshell mode connected via USB-C to display with backwards charging, it all just works! I'm also using secureboot with my keys, I cleared all MS keys and it didn't brick the laptop. My only grievance is a bit buggy firmware. When I turn laptop on or reboot, speakers will randomly be muted (not…

Re firmware updates, I've had the same problem and written a blog post about how to update the firmware on ThinkPad under Linux without a Windows computer. Find it here: https://random.xdiez.com/it/2024/02/03/Lenovo-BIOS-update-do...
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