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Re: How do I cancel my ChatGPT subscription?

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Post by dgellow »

tombert wrote: post #94
deaux wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It's frustrating. Sam Altman already has everything. He's a billionaire, he can buy literally anything he wants, he can live anywhere he wants, he can buy a brand new sports car every day just to blow it up, he can buy a new house every week just to demolish and replace it with a trampoline park. He can afford to do anything. No, he doesn't have everything. See, maybe he's worth $3 billion. Or maybe $30 billion. Bu…

“Yes, but I have something he will never have — ENOUGH” - Joseph Heller. After a billion dollars, I doubt another billion will make you happier. In fact, I don’t think another trillion will make you happier. In fact, I don’t think another quadrillion dollars will make you happier, etc. After a certain point you have effectively infinite money. Enough money to live dozens of extremely comfortable lifetimes. And import…

Way more than a dozen!

Re: How do I cancel my ChatGPT subscription?

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Post by deaux »

alt227 wrote: post #120
deaux wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It's frustrating. Sam Altman already has everything. He's a billionaire, he can buy literally anything he wants, he can live anywhere he wants, he can buy a brand new sports car every day just to blow it up, he can buy a new house every week just to demolish and replace it with a trampoline park. He can afford to do anything. No, he doesn't have everything. See, maybe he's worth $3 billion. Or maybe $30 billion. Bu…

We live in a capitalist economy. What do you expect, a company to just say 'Thats fine we have enough money we dont need any more'? How does a $100 billion dollar company grow? By taking on massive government and military contracts, they are the only clients big enough left in the world. If a company does not show continual growth then it is classed as failing. That is the society we have built, and you cannot blame…

> We live in a capitalist economy.

We live in a multifaceted (are we allowed to use that word again? I think 2026 models have stopped using it) economy.

> That is the society we have built

Maybe you have, I sure haven't. Luckily "we" also haven't, as many - no, the overwhelming majority of people - aren't like that.

> and you cannot blame one man for following those principles.

You absolutely can, as much as you can blame the sadistic guards at Auschwitz.

> Every CEO in existence does the same.

A shocking, bald-faced lie. How do you get these keystrokes out of your fingers? This is so trivially false it immediately outs itself as bad faith. It takes less time to fact-check as being made up than the average post on Truth Social.

Re: How do I cancel my ChatGPT subscription?

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Post by alt227 »

lwhi wrote: post #135
alt227 wrote: post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We live in a capitalist economy. What do you expect, a company to just say 'Thats fine we have enough money we dont need any more'? How does a $100 billion dollar company grow? By taking on massive government and military contracts, they are the only clients big enough left in the world. If a company does not show continual growth then it is classed as failing. That is the society we have built, and you cannot blame…

Please, come on. Is this really the best backup? Sam Altman has demonstrated that he's a piece of ** with this move. We can now safely assume that all the pronouncements and grand statements before were simply posturing.

> Is this really the best backup?

It is the justification for anything any corporation does. This is a company with boards of directors and shareholders, you really think this is just Sams opinion guiding this?

> Sam Altman has demonstrated that he's a piece of * with this move.

Thats is your opinion based only on what his company has publicly dislcosed to you. I prefer not to judge a mans character based on corporate puffery.

Re: How do I cancel my ChatGPT subscription?

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Post by arjie »

ddxv wrote: post #21
padolsey wrote: post #12

Before you fully delete your account, don't forget to first save your chats! Go to https://chatgpt.com/#settings/DataControls and click Export under "Export Data".

What value does this give you? Part of why I deleted my account was I couldn't think of a single thing of value in my chats from the past couple years? Maybe some nostalgia looking at what bugs I was fixing?

Some people have apparently been using it as a notepad. See the following: https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-025-04064-7

In my case, I would rather keep it than lose it. It's just text so small amount of data. You can trivially get a GPT Embedding for it and search it in DuckDB later for things you asked.

Re: How do I cancel my ChatGPT subscription?

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Post by tombert »

alt227 wrote: post #134
tombert wrote: post #128

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Somehow Anthropic’s CEO managed to reach a different conclusion. They don’t have to do business with every single entity who asks them to and they don’t have to bend over for every stipulation that that entity asks for.

Yep, in exactly the same way that for years Google was 'not evil'. When anthropic can no longer grow through developer subscriptions and deals with ethical companies, Lets see how long it takes their shareholders to force them to remove such sweet statements from their company mission statement.

I love how you chastised me for speculating on Altman’s mind state but apparently you can predict the future and know what Anthropic is going to do N years from now.

Yeah maybe Anthropic will become a rent-seeking corporation. That’s likely even. And yet that’s not actually relevant at all to what I said; the fact is that right now they appear to have more principles than Altman and OpenAI

Re: How do I cancel my ChatGPT subscription?

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Post by lwhi »

alt227 wrote: post #131
lwhi wrote: post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There has to be a line that will not be crossed, in order to be seen to have principles. Until that line has been reached, we can safely assume there are no principles at play.

You are the one drawing that line for yourself. Everybodies line of principles is in a different place.

No, you're incorrect.

Some people never reach a line. And if they do get close, it gets hastily redrawn.

Re: How do I cancel my ChatGPT subscription?

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Post by lwhi »

alt227 wrote: post #143
lwhi wrote: post #135

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please, come on. Is this really the best backup? Sam Altman has demonstrated that he's a piece of ** with this move. We can now safely assume that all the pronouncements and grand statements before were simply posturing.

> Is this really the best backup? It is the justification for anything any corporation does. This is a company with boards of directors and shareholders, you really think this is just Sams opinion guiding this? > Sam Altman has demonstrated that he's a piece of * with this move. Thats is your opinion based only on what his company has publicly dislcosed to you. I prefer not to judge a mans character based on corporat…

Sympathy for the Devil.

Re: How do I cancel my ChatGPT subscription?

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Post by moffkalast »

tobr wrote: post #3

I had been considering ditching everyday ChatGPT use in favor of Claude anyway, but hadn’t gotten around to it mostly out of habit. Now I have a good reason to do it.

With this amount of competition it's almost weird to be paying anyone anything when one can just switch between free tiers of GPT, Claude, Gemini, Kimi, Qwen, Deepseek, Le Chat and an endless firehose of local models. The more your usage is randomly spread out, the less each provider can presumably profile you too as nobody has the full picture.

Re: How do I cancel my ChatGPT subscription?

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Post by bjackman »

0xbadcafebee wrote: post #124
segmondy wrote: post #76

This is a good time to promote running your own models. I have been running my own models locally and I would wager a local model will meet 85-95% of your needs if you really learn to use it. These models have gotten great. For anyone wanting to get into this, the smartest models to run recently that is consumer friendly was just released, checkout Qwen3.5 the 27B and 35B variants. They are small and I recommend runn…

For non-Mac users: A laptop with an iGPU and loads of system RAM has the advantage of being able to use system ram in addition to VRAM to load models (assuming your gpu driver supports it, which most do afaik), so load up as much system RAM as you can. The downside is, the system RAM is less fast than dedicated GDDR5. These GPUs would be Radeon 890M and Intel Arc (previous generations are still decently good, if that…

> there are at least a dozen companies that provide non-Anthropic/non-OpenAI models in the cloud, many of which are dirt cheap because of how fast and good open weights are now.

Oh yeah, seems obvious now you said it, but this is a great point.

I'm constantly thinking "I need to get into local models but I dread spending all that time and money without having any idea if the end result would be useful".

But obviously the answer is to start playing with open models in the cloud!

Re: How do I cancel my ChatGPT subscription?

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Post by tombert »

alt227 wrote: post #137
tombert wrote: post #125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Umm, no shit? This isn’t actually saying anything. I am saying that his stated principles are inconsistent with his actions. Yes, sure, maybe deep down on his heart of hearts he actually is the most kind caring person who ever existed, but I have no way of knowing what is in his heart of hearts so I can only judge him by what he has said and done, and I am arguing that his actions don’t match his words.

You really think that a CEOs public statements match their real thoughts and feelings? Everything you hear from any CEO is constructed to form a desired image and narrative. Any public statements from a CEO that you are using to judge their character is completely false and misguided. You have no idea what the real man is behind the image.

You haven’t really gone through my comment history here, which is fine, I haven’t gone through yours, but if you had you would see that today I posted about how you can’t trust anything billionaires say because there’s no negative consequences for lying.

I am arguing that he posted on Twitter not even 24 hours ago a post laying out what looked like principles. Not even 24 hours later he decided that those principles aren’t actually important.

I am not a psychic because psychics don’t actually exist, so I can’t read minds, so I cannot know what he is actually thinking. I am claiming that he’s a piece of shit for not following his own stated principles. I actually do think billionaires should face consequences for lying.

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