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Re: Nearby Glasses

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Post by saikia81 »

latexr wrote: post #135
socalgal2 wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I am not a believer in Zuckerberg's idea of humanity's future. I don't know what Zuckerberg's idea of humanity's future is but I believe it's basically inevitable that most people will be wearing always on cameras on their face in the future. The same way they carry always on phones today. The use cases will be too compelling. There have already been demos. Ask the AI watching over your shoulder anything about your…

The pushback to and ultimate failure of Google Glass proves it’s not inevitable.

The fact that every new technology has had pushback before adoption makes your claim meaningless.

Re: Nearby Glasses

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Post by saikia81 »

alkonaut wrote: post #126
socalgal2 wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I am not a believer in Zuckerberg's idea of humanity's future. I don't know what Zuckerberg's idea of humanity's future is but I believe it's basically inevitable that most people will be wearing always on cameras on their face in the future. The same way they carry always on phones today. The use cases will be too compelling. There have already been demos. Ask the AI watching over your shoulder anything about your…

This sounds like a regulation issue to me. If it's regulated it can't be inevitable that "most people" are breaking the law. And if there is a resistance among people then hopefully it will be regulated (I'm talking outside the US now, i.e. where there is a positive correlation between what people in general want and what laws eventually become).

In the united states the first amendment of the constitution makes it so that any public usage of camera tech cannot be controlled by the state. Except in some very specific scenarios.

Re: Nearby Glasses

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Post by saikia81 »

latexr wrote: post #137
socalgal2 wrote: post #125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Demo. As much I enjoyed Black Mirror I thought it's Season 1, "The Entire History of You" entertaining but was poorly conceived. It showed catching your partner cheating as a "would rather not know" thing and it ignored any possible positives. The episode wasn't really about the tech, it was about a failing relationship, a cheating partner, and an untrusting obsessive person. In any case, in that world, which didn't…

> The episode wasn't really about the tech, it was about a failing relationship, a cheating partner, and an untrusting obsessive person. Good (or decent) science fiction is never about the tech, but about its impact on people.

because the tech is hard to envision right (or sci-fi writers would be rich), but the consequences are clearer

Re: Nearby Glasses

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Post by iso1631 »

alkonaut wrote: post #126
socalgal2 wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I am not a believer in Zuckerberg's idea of humanity's future. I don't know what Zuckerberg's idea of humanity's future is but I believe it's basically inevitable that most people will be wearing always on cameras on their face in the future. The same way they carry always on phones today. The use cases will be too compelling. There have already been demos. Ask the AI watching over your shoulder anything about your…

This sounds like a regulation issue to me. If it's regulated it can't be inevitable that "most people" are breaking the law. And if there is a resistance among people then hopefully it will be regulated (I'm talking outside the US now, i.e. where there is a positive correlation between what people in general want and what laws eventually become).

The regulation needs to get ahead of the product, otherwise you'd be criminalising existing behaviour and that doesn't work

People normalised installing spy doorbells, so every doorstep is centrally available to large organisations who want to do harm (government, amazon, meta, whoever)

Re: Nearby Glasses

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Post by Klaster_1 »

tamimio wrote: post #13

Need an iOS. But I think very soon the whole detection won’t be enough, because most people will have glasses, phones, CCTV, etc., I think the best is protecting yourself, so a cloak mask or similar, where for humans it’s barely visible but for machines it blocks you from being scanned or recorded.

The Quantum Thief series by Hannu Rajaniemi depicts a society where the protection point in "smart glasses" is addressed by making shared info opt-in and handling that centrally (vulnerability of which is a major plot point), so people see a non-distinct blob instead of a person if they don't have access. There's more to it in the books, but I won't spoil, I highly recommend reading these instead.

Re: Nearby Glasses

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Post by iso1631 »

scotty79 wrote: post #55
p_ing wrote: post #18

The dichotomy between the statement in the repo "False positives are likely " and the app message "Smart Glasses are probably nearby" is interesting.

Perceptions of probability: https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd....

I love how some of the curves go negative

Re: Nearby Glasses

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Post by aa-jv »

itishappy wrote: post #103
drdaeman wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I believe the problem is not smart glasses per se , but spyware that runs on a lot (if not most) of such devices. Shame the language makes people intrinsically hate the former by associating it with the latter without even questioning it. The idea of smart glasses is cool, the implementations are not.

Smart glasses are spyware. The ability to record without my knowledge or consent is what I take issue with. I don't particularly care if you self host.

Alas, your knowledge or consent is not a requirement if you are in public, and this is a human right worth defending, frankly.

Your desire to consent to being recorded in public places does not counteract my right to record everything I can perceive in public. Period.

Re: Nearby Glasses

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Post by ddtaylor »

Tried this on my moto g 128GB - 2025 (XT2513V) running Android 16. Here is some rapid fire feedback.

I opened this in a pretty heavily populated area in Baltimore. There wasn't anyone likely near using glasses and no detections were made, but the debug log flew by absurdly quickly likely because there are a ton of Bluetooth devices nearby.

The start scanning button doesn't change to stop scanning, but it does seem to toggle scanning.

The top bar is overlapping with the notification bar area.

The bottom is truncated slight by my 3 button gesture bar thing. I am old and use the very ancient back, home and multi task buttons that are always visible because I am old.

When I first granted permission the app seemed to just lock up and wouldn't do anything until I restarted it. I gave it both the permissions it wanted and tried fiddling with stuff, but it didn't seem to redraw and I couldn't get the settings to open until after I restarted.

When I first started I think I was connected to my headset, which then disconnected after the permission request?

Re: Nearby Glasses

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Post by ddtaylor »

alt187 wrote: post #131
ehnto wrote: post #130

We are really getting into the cyberpunk dystopia now. Adversarial tech in everyday wearables, hardware cat and mouse. Next step is offence as defence, ICE daemons counter hacking autonomously in the background.

Wow, it's been a while since I haven't read ICE and parsed it this way. Black ICE, even?

Trappin before it was a thing!

Re: Nearby Glasses

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Post by SunboX »

ddtaylor wrote: post #148

Tried this on my moto g 128GB - 2025 (XT2513V) running Android 16. Here is some rapid fire feedback. I opened this in a pretty heavily populated area in Baltimore. There wasn't anyone likely near using glasses and no detections were made, but the debug log flew by absurdly quickly likely because there are a ton of Bluetooth devices nearby. The start scanning button doesn't change to stop scanning, but it does seem to…

I second this ... using a Google Pixel 8 I have exactly the same issues.
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