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IDF killed Gaza aid workers at point blank range in 2025 massacre: Report

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Post by Y-bar »

dang wrote: post #97
blitzar wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

[flagged]

Edit: if https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47136856 is correct and you did not intend that as a slur (edit 2: which having seen https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47137004 is now clearer to me), it would be good to read some of these comments about intent vs. effects, and adjust how you post in the future: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que... https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=…

Dang, I'm writing this reply as a target of antisemitic hate. I am not strictly a Jew (though I am often mistaken for one due to both name and appearance). My relatives were hunted and gassed in WW2.

The poster you are responding to is making ha joke:ish observation (probably badly communicated) that the modus operandi in the Israeli Government is to label all evidence of their crimes "antisemitic" no matter how truthful they are, no matter how many facts, no matter how vile their actions look.

Netanyahu et al have nurtured a context where there is no difference between real antisemitic hate and valid criticism. He and the people like him equate truth to antisemitism. Something which hurts many of us.

Please understand this.

Re: IDF killed Gaza aid workers at point blank range in 2025 massacre: Report

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Post by ebbi »

7952 wrote: post #22
throwaw12 wrote: post #18

Things are in terrible state in the world. Gaza exposed it even more: * No one accepts high western "morality" anymore * Most US politicians are blackmailed via Epstein who worked for Israel, with high probability, including Trump * ICE is just the beginning, they're trained by IDF, send more people and 1940 is not too far away from us

> * No one accepts high western "morality" anymore Is that an accurate trend on an individual basis?

I think when people say "West", they automatically think US and UK - and given their war crimes in recent history, you do get this sentiment, yes. I suspect, however, that this view has exacerbated and now includes other "western" countries that are silent/complicit in current horrific war crimes.

Re: IDF killed Gaza aid workers at point blank range in 2025 massacre: Report

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Post by austin-cheney »

ignoramous wrote: post #126
apexalpha wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is very thorough. Thanks for the direct link. The case seems pretty clear, especially since the soldiers tried to hide all evidence.

> case seems pretty clear, especially since the soldiers tried Even if the 'soldiers' didn't, it wouldn't have mattered as the governing apparatus usually goes out of its way to protect their own militants. Ex A: Detainees executed, unarmed civilians killed in their sleep, a child, handcuffed and shot, all covered up by the chain of command – this is the testimony of more than 30 eyewitnesses, former members of UK Sp…

Yes and no. It does matter because it illustrates both malicious intent and evidence of guilt, as in the guilty party knew they were perpetrating a criminal action.

However, you are also correct, the IDF has little or no accountability for criminal behavior.

Re: IDF killed Gaza aid workers at point blank range in 2025 massacre: Report

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Post by estearum »

indoordin0saur wrote: post #117
jquery wrote: post #38

Real shame this got flagged so quickly, too. This is prime HN material.

Isn't this a tech news site?

Did you click on the link? It's a pretty amazing technological investigation.

Even just technologically it's more interesting than 90% of the stuff posted here.

Re: IDF killed Gaza aid workers at point blank range in 2025 massacre: Report

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Post by ceejayoz »

johnfn wrote: post #132
therobots927 wrote: post #119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You always have plenty of excuses when you get called out. Looking the other way while bot armies mass downvote pro Palestine / anti ICE / anti PayPal mafia content is complicity. I’m sure you have the data to suss out what is obvious to anyone watching these threads in real time.

Think about what you are saying for a moment. Why would "bot armies" come to Hacker News of all places to flag pro-Palestine articles? Don't you think it's a much more reasonable conclusion that people read the site guidelines[1], which clearly say that political posts are off-topic, and then flagged for that reason instead? There are a million places to discuss politics online. If I wanted to discuss politics, I wou…

> Why would "bot armies" come to Hacker News of all places to flag pro-Palestine articles?

Turn on showdead and you'll find much, much weirder wastes of time here.

Re: IDF killed Gaza aid workers at point blank range in 2025 massacre: Report

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Post by ignoramous »

austin-cheney wrote: post #144
ignoramous wrote: post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> case seems pretty clear, especially since the soldiers tried Even if the 'soldiers' didn't, it wouldn't have mattered as the governing apparatus usually goes out of its way to protect their own militants. Ex A: Detainees executed, unarmed civilians killed in their sleep, a child, handcuffed and shot, all covered up by the chain of command – this is the testimony of more than 30 eyewitnesses, former members of UK Sp…

Yes and no. It does matter because it illustrates both malicious intent and evidence of guilt, as in the guilty party knew they were perpetrating a criminal action. However, you are also correct, the IDF has little or no accountability for criminal behavior.

> the guilty party knew they were perpetrating a criminal action ... the IDF has little or no accountability for criminal behavior.

May be the brazenness is why they make the best Tech CXOs?

  "The Israeli tank commander who has fought in one of the Syrian wars is the best engineering executive in the world. The tank commanders are operationally the best, and are extremely detail oriented. This is based on twenty years of experience — working with them and observing them."

  Eric Schmidt (Start-up Nation / Saul Singer et al / pg. 41)

Re: IDF killed Gaza aid workers at point blank range in 2025 massacre: Report

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Post by actionfromafar »

ignoramous wrote: post #148
austin-cheney wrote: post #144

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes and no. It does matter because it illustrates both malicious intent and evidence of guilt, as in the guilty party knew they were perpetrating a criminal action. However, you are also correct, the IDF has little or no accountability for criminal behavior.

> the guilty party knew they were perpetrating a criminal action ... the IDF has little or no accountability for criminal behavior. May be the brazenness is why they make the best Tech CXOs? "The Israeli tank commander who has fought in one of the Syrian wars is the best engineering executive in the world. The tank commanders are operationally the best, and are extremely detail oriented. This is based on twenty years…

The tank commanders of another, bygone war also had the reputation for attention to detail. Funny how history rhymes.
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