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Across the US, people are dismantling and destroying Flock surveillance cameras

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Re: Across the US, people are dismantling and destroying Flock surveillance cameras

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Post by mzi »

mullingitover wrote: post #11

I'm surprised the flock cameras aren't being disabled in a more subtle fashion. All it takes is a tiny drone with a stick attached, and at the end of that stick is a tiny sponge soaked with tempera paint. Drone goes 'boop' on the camera lens, and the entire system is disabled until an expensive technician drives out with a ladder and cleans the lens at non-trivial expense. A handful of enterprising activists could bl…

> soaked with tempera paint Or even etching liquid, then you need to replace the lens.

Re: Across the US, people are dismantling and destroying Flock surveillance cameras

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Post by tamimio »

mullingitover wrote: post #11

I'm surprised the flock cameras aren't being disabled in a more subtle fashion. All it takes is a tiny drone with a stick attached, and at the end of that stick is a tiny sponge soaked with tempera paint. Drone goes 'boop' on the camera lens, and the entire system is disabled until an expensive technician drives out with a ladder and cleans the lens at non-trivial expense. A handful of enterprising activists could bl…

I wouldn’t suggest doing that, it will result in more regulation restricting drones. I joined before few workshops that included the government too, and there were discussions about requiring a whole license every time you modify the drone, not limited to the airframe, but the flight purpose and payload. So you can imagine in the future, modding or repurposing your drone could be a “federal crime” if you don’t go and re-license the drone every time you change the payload.

Re: Across the US, people are dismantling and destroying Flock surveillance cameras

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Post by NoMoreNicksLeft »

loeg wrote: post #60
monero-xmr wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The vast majority of crimes are committed by a small percentage of people. The real issue is prosecutors who refuse to incarcerate repeat offenders. But having video evidence is a powerful tool for a motivated prosecutor to actually take criminals off the streets

> The real issue is prosecutors who refuse to incarcerate repeat offenders. Sometimes judges contribute as well.

The real problem with prosecutors is that they don't want to prosecute. When I was on the grand jury in my city a couple of years ago, there was a slow morning and the assistant DA said that there were about 4000 cases per year and that they brought 30 of those to trial. He didn't think anything of it, for him it was a story about how they loved trials because "they were so much fun". But if they were so much fun, why are less than 1% of cases going to trial?

Plea deals.

Plea deals subvert justice for both those innocent who are bullied into pleading out, and for those who are wickedly guilty and get a big discount on the penalty exacted. Plea deals give the system extra capacity for prosecution, encouraging the justice system to fill the excess capacity, while simultaneously giving an underfunded system that doesn't have enough capacity the appearance of being able to handle the load. Bad all around.

Re: Across the US, people are dismantling and destroying Flock surveillance cameras

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Post by NoMoreNicksLeft »

leoh wrote: post #96
odie5533 wrote: post #57

Flock cameras are assisted suicide for dying neighborhoods. They don't prevent crime, they record crime. Cleaning up vacant lots, planting trees, street lighting, trash removal, and traffic calming like adding planters and crosswalks reduce crime.

What is crime anymore when a felon is the president?

What is a felony anymore when the felony is "submitted bad paperwork"?

Re: Across the US, people are dismantling and destroying Flock surveillance cameras

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Post by shadowfacts »

TheBicPen wrote: post #99
kdogkshd wrote: post #26

If you're in the bay area, on Monday at 6:30 there's a mountain view city council meeting where flock is on the agenda. If this surveillance bothers you, show up!!

Do you have a link to the agenda? The only Monday meeting I see on the mountain view site is a Board of Library Trustees meeting

It’s listed on the agenda here as “Automated License Plate Reader Contract.” https://mountainview.legistar.com/MeetingDetail.aspx?ID=1352...

Re: Across the US, people are dismantling and destroying Flock surveillance cameras

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Post by camillomiller »

grensley wrote: post #39

Here's a list of Flock's investors: - Andreessen Horowitz - Greenoaks Capital - Bedrock Capital - Meritech Capital - Matrix Partners - Sands Capital - Founders Fund - Kleiner Perkins - Tiger Global - Y Combinator

Pretty clear already that Ycombinator runs this very site as a community fueled decoy for their actual values (or complete lack thereof).

Re: Across the US, people are dismantling and destroying Flock surveillance cameras

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Post by wolvoleo »

mullingitover wrote: post #11

I'm surprised the flock cameras aren't being disabled in a more subtle fashion. All it takes is a tiny drone with a stick attached, and at the end of that stick is a tiny sponge soaked with tempera paint. Drone goes 'boop' on the camera lens, and the entire system is disabled until an expensive technician drives out with a ladder and cleans the lens at non-trivial expense. A handful of enterprising activists could bl…

Shooting them with a paintball gun might be a lot simpler and has the same effect. Just needs paint that's a bit harder to remove

Re: Across the US, people are dismantling and destroying Flock surveillance cameras

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Post by wesleywt »

NoMoreNicksLeft wrote: post #144
leoh wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is crime anymore when a felon is the president?

What is a felony anymore when the felony is "submitted bad paperwork"?

I love how we in Africa can finally see open corruption in US. You guys can't be high and mighty anymore. You are one of us now.

Re: Across the US, people are dismantling and destroying Flock surveillance cameras

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Post by wolvoleo »

dyauspitr wrote: post #29
stavros wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would I fly an expensive drone close to a camera, fumble about for a minute trying to get it painted like a renaissance artist, when I can get a paintball gun for much less?

I don’t think they make commercial paintballs with hard to remove enamel or tempura paints.

True but maybe you can fill them yourself?

Re: Across the US, people are dismantling and destroying Flock surveillance cameras

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Post by KaiserPro »

wesleywt wrote: post #148
NoMoreNicksLeft wrote: post #144

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is a felony anymore when the felony is "submitted bad paperwork"?

I love how we in Africa can finally see open corruption in US. You guys can't be high and mighty anymore. You are one of us now.

Fuck me, that is a deeply depressing sick burn.
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