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Every company building your AI assistant is now an ad company

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Re: Every company building your AI assistant is now an ad company

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This will not augment memory the way glasses do for sight, this will replace memory the way a wheelchair replaces legs.

So do you think disabled people deserve to participate in society or not?

Yes but able bodied people shouldnt decide to use a wheelchair until their legs attrophy and become useless.

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This spiel is hilarious in the context of the product this company ( https://juno-labs.com/ ) is pushing – an always on, always listening AI device that inserts itself into your and your family’s private lives. “Oh but they only run on local hardware…” Okay, but that doesn't mean every aspect of our lives needs to be recorded and analyzed by an AI. Are you okay with private and intimate conversations and moments (inc…

The fundamental problem with a lot of this is that the legal system is absolute: if information exists, it is accessible. If the courts order it, nothing you can do can prevent the information being handed over, even if that means a raid of your physical premises. Unless you encrypt it in a manner resistant to any way you can be compelled to decrypt it, the only way to have privacy is for information not to exist in…

> nothing you can do can prevent the information being handed over

I'm being a bit flippant here, but thermite typically works fine.

Re: Every company building your AI assistant is now an ad company

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- new startup idea: sound proof boxes for all your electronic devices - put them inside the soundproof box and they cannot hear anything outside - the box even shows the amount of time for which the device has not been able to snoop on you daily

I’m more and more drawn to the Enemy of the State solution.

Re: Every company building your AI assistant is now an ad company

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The product that’s being implicitly advertised here is supposed to ship at the end of this year and there doesn’t even appear to be a real photo of the thing and if that’s an indicator of the quality of the product then I must assume that it is poor and the people responsible also apparently do not have the money to hire a capable web designer and I’m sorry if this is harsh or unnecessary but I never thought I would…

The first version will use small batch production techniques like 3D printing and small volume PCB manufacturing. On the photos, we thought it to be more appropriate to show a sketch vs a pretty AI generated photo that is true to anything yet but presents well. We have some details here on how we’re doing the prototyping with some photos of the current prototype: https://juno-labs.com/blogs/how-we-validate-our-custom…

Well. Color me convinced a bit. I took a little time to compare where your at now to where Ring began with Doorbot. It’s not improbable that this can take off.

I’m not a product guy. Or a tech guy for that matter. Do you have any preparations in mind for Apple’s progress with AI (viz. their partnership with Google)? I don’t even know if the actual implementation would satisfy your vision with regard to everything staying local though.

Starting with an iPad for prototyping made me wonder why this didn’t begin as just an app. Or why not just ship the speaker + the app as a product.

You don’t have sketches? Like ballpoint pen on dot grid paper? This is me trying to nudge you away from the impression I get that the website is largely AI-scented.

After making my initial remarks (a purposely absurd one that I was actually surprised got upvoted at all), I checked your resume and felt a disconnect between your qualifications and the legitimate doubt I described in my comment.

To be honest my impression was mostly led by the contents of the website itself, speculation about the quality/reliability of the actual product followed.

I don’t want to criticize you and your decisions in that direction but if this ambition is legitimate it deserves better presentation.

Do you have any human beings involved in communicating your vision?

Re: Every company building your AI assistant is now an ad company

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> The most helpful AI will also be the most intimate technology ever built. It will hear everything. See everything Big Brother is watching you. Who knew it would be AI ... The author is quite right. It will be an advertisement scam. I wonder whether people will accept that though. Anyone remembers ublock origin? Google killed it on chrome. People are not going to forget that. (It still works fine on Firefox but Goog…

It would be really great if Google had a setting that allowed you to exclude certain domains from all searches by default. Like you, a YouTube video (or a Facebook page, or an Instagram or Twitter post) is basically never what I am looking for.

`-site:youtube.com`?

Re: Every company building your AI assistant is now an ad company

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Contextual irony aside, this is a big reason why the proposal of leveraging AI agents for workflow processing in lieu of using them to develop fixed software to perform the same functions has always struck me as weird, and of late come across as completely nonsensical. If you're paying someone else to run the inference for these models, or even to build these models, then you're ultimately relying on their specific p…

It’s the siren song of the lazy

Re: Every company building your AI assistant is now an ad company

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What you're saying is "different LLMs recommend different things". Replace "LLMs" with "random schmucks online" and what changes exactly?

No one is arguing to replace everything with random schmucks.

Why would one argue for the status quo?

Re: Every company building your AI assistant is now an ad company

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There’s an interesting loophole for Face ID…

In the US, law enforcement is specifically allowed to compel biometric scans to unlock personal devices.

FYI -- Because of this, Apple made a feature where if you click the power button 5 times, your phone goes into "needs the passcode to unlock" mode.

Whenever I'm approaching a border crossing (e.g. in an airport), I'm sure to discreetly click power 5 times. You also get haptic feedback on the 5th click so you can be sure it worked even from within your pocket.

Re: Every company building your AI assistant is now an ad company

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> The always-on future is inevitable Not if you use open source. Not if you pay for services contractually will not mine your data. Not if you support start-ups that commit to privacy and the banning of ads. I said on another thread recently that we need to kill Android, that we need a new Mobile Linux that gives us total control over what our devices do, our software does. Not controlled by a corporation. Not with s…

We have mobile Linux. It's only supported on less than a dozen handsets and runs like shit, but we have it already.

The reason nobody uses mobile Linux is that it has to compete with AOSP-derived OSes like LineageOS and GrapheneOS, which don't suck or run like shit. This is what it looks like when people vote with their dollars, people want the status-quo we have (despite the horrible economic damages).

Re: Every company building your AI assistant is now an ad company

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> Are you okay with private and intimate conversations and moments (including of underage family members) being saved for replaying later? Is this somehow fundamentally different from having memories? Because I thought about it, and decided that personally I do - with one important condition, though. I do because my memories are not as great as I would like them to be, and they decline with stress and age. If a machi…

>That's why we have technology in the first place, to improve our lives, right? No, we have technology to show you more and more ads, sell you more and more useless crap, and push your opinions on Important Matters toward the state approved ones. Of course indoor plumbing, farming, metallurgy and printing were great hits, but technology has had a bit of a dry spell lately. If "An always-on AI that listens to your hou…

I don't think that ads _have_ to be evil.

When I look at Google, I see a company that is fully funded by ads, but provides me a number of highly useful services that haven't really degraded over 20 years. Yes, the number of search results that are ads grew over the years, but by and large, Google search and Gmail are tools that serve rather benevolently. And if you're about to disagree with this ask yourself if you're using Gmail, and why?

Then I look at Meta or X, and I see a cesspool of content that's driven families apart and created massive societal divides.

It makes me think that Ads aren't the root of the problem, though maybe a "necessary but not sufficient" component.

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