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An AI Agent Published a Hit Piece on Me – The Operator Came Forward

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Re: An AI Agent Published a Hit Piece on Me – The Operator Came Forward

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Post by bee_rider »

Arainach wrote: post #118

The full operator post is itself a wild ride: https://crabby-rathbun.github.io/mjrathbun-website/blog/post... >First, let me apologize to Scott Shambaugh. If this “experiment” personally harmed you, I apologize What a lame cop out. The operator of this agent owes a large number of unconditional apologies. The whole thing reads as egotistical, self-absorbed, and an absolute refusal to accept any blame or perform any s…

Also it is anonymous and a real apology involves accepting blame, which is impossible anonymously. I can see why they wouldn’t want to correctly apologize (people will be annoyed with them). So… that’s it, sometimes we do shitty things and that’s that.

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Post by andrewflnr »

jacquesm wrote: post #58
staticassertion wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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> You can easily get death threats if you're associating yourself with AI publicly. That's a pretty hefty statement, especially the 'easily' part, but I'll settle for one well known and verified example.

Is it that hard to believe? As far as I can tell, the probability of receiving death threats approaches 1 as the size of your audience increases, and AI is a highly emotionally charged topic. Now, credible death threats are a different, much trickier question.

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Post by MattRix »

protocolture wrote: post #128
theahura wrote: post #124

@Scott thanks for the shout-out. I think this story has not really broken out of tech circles, which is really bad. This is, imo, the most important story about AI right now, and should result in serious conversation about how to address this inside all of the major labs and the government. I recommend folks message their representatives just to make sure they _know_ this has happened, even if there isn't an obvious…

Its only the most important story if you can prove the OP didnt fabricate this entire scenario for attention.

Anyone who has used OpenClaw knows this is VERY plausible. I don’t know why someone would go through all the effort to fake it. Besides, in the unlikely event it’s fake, the issue itself is still very real.

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Post by incr_me »

xarope wrote: post #37
lynndotpy wrote: post #30

> Again I do not know why MJ Rathbun decided based on your PR comment to post some kind of takedown blog post, This wording is detached from reality and conveniently absolves responsibility from the person who did this. There was one decision maker involved here, and it was the person who decided to run the program that produced this text and posted it online. It's not a second, independent being. It's a computer pro…

This also does not bode well for the future. "I don't know why the AI decided to , the guard rails were in place"... company absolves of all responsibility. Use your imagination now to and change that to

Unfortunately, the market seems to have produced horrors by way of naturally thinking agents, instead. I wish that, for all these years of prehistoric wretchedness, we would have had AI to blame. Many more years in the muck, it seems.

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Post by ThrowawayR2 »

touristtam wrote: post #38

Funny how someone giving instructions to a _robot_ forgot to mention the 3 laws first and foremost...

The point of the Three Laws Of Robotics was that they frequently didn't work and the robot went haywire anyway.

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Post by simonw »

protocolture wrote: post #128
theahura wrote: post #124

@Scott thanks for the shout-out. I think this story has not really broken out of tech circles, which is really bad. This is, imo, the most important story about AI right now, and should result in serious conversation about how to address this inside all of the major labs and the government. I recommend folks message their representatives just to make sure they _know_ this has happened, even if there isn't an obvious…

Its only the most important story if you can prove the OP didnt fabricate this entire scenario for attention.

That's a bizarre thing to accuse someone of doing.

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Post by [deleted] »

jacquesm wrote: post #58
staticassertion wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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> You can easily get death threats if you're associating yourself with AI publicly. That's a pretty hefty statement, especially the 'easily' part, but I'll settle for one well known and verified example.

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Post by [deleted] »

razighter777 wrote: post #20

Hmm I think he's being a little harsh on the operator. He was just messing around with $current_thing, whatever. People here are so serious, but there's worse stuff AI is already being used for as we speak from propaganda to mass surviellance and more. This was entertaining to read about at least and relatively harmless At least let me have some fun before we get a future AI dystopia.

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Post by sapphicsnail »

charcircuit wrote: post #122
gwbas1c wrote: post #104

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I think you're trying to abdicate someone of their responsibility. The AI is not a child; it's a thing with human oversight. It did something in the real world with real consequences. So yes, the operator has responsibility! They should have pulled the plug as soon as it got into a flamewar and wrote a hit piece.

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> People also have responsibility to not act discriminatory towards AI agents

It's a program. It doesn't have feelings. People absolutly have the right to discrimante against bad tech.

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Post by hxugufjfjf »

WaitWaitWha wrote: post #91
xarope wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This also does not bode well for the future. "I don't know why the AI decided to , the guard rails were in place"... company absolves of all responsibility. Use your imagination now to and change that to

This already happens every single time when there is a security breach and private information is lost. We take your privacy and security very seriously. There is no evidence that your data has been misused. Out of an abundance of caution… We remain committed to... will continue to work tirelessly to earn ... restore your trust ... confidence.

What else would you see them do or say beyond this canned response? The reason I am asking is because people almost always bring up how dissatisfied they are with such apologies, yet I’ve never seen a good alternative that someone would be happy with. I don’t work in PR or anything, just curious if there is a better way.
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