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Re: Orchestrate teams of Claude Code sessions

#141

Post by meowface »

dangus wrote: post #136
logicx24 wrote: post #131

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can't even get through my Claude Max quota, and that's only 200/mo. And I code every day and use it for various other pretty-intensive tasks.

only $200/mo… $200 a month is a used car payment. I guarantee you that price will double by 2027. Then it’ll be a new car payment! I’m really not saying this to be snarky, I’m saying this to point out that we’re really already in the enshittification phase before the rapid growth phase has even ended. You’re paying $200 and acting like that’s a cheap SaaS product for an individual. I pay less for Autocad products! Th…

I could write an essay about how almost everything you wrote either is extremely incorrect or is extremely likely to be incorrect. I am too lazy to, though, so I will just have to wait for another commenter to do the equivalent.

Re: Orchestrate teams of Claude Code sessions

#142

Post by andkenneth »

freeone3000 wrote: post #134
rahimnathwani wrote: post #130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Many many companies can afford to hire a junior engineer for $150k/year (plus employer payroll taxes, employee benefits etc.). Are you spending more than $150k per year on AI? (Also, you're talking about the cost of your Cursor subscription, when the article is about Claude Code. Maybe try Claude Max instead?)

If it could do anything that a junior dev could, that’d be a valid point of comparison. But it continually, wildly performs slower and falls short every time I’ve tried.

Companies are not comparing it straight to juniors. They're more making a comparison between a Senior with the assistance of one more more juniors, vs a Senior with the assistance of AI Agents.

I feel like comparison just to a junior developer is also becoming a fairly outdated comparison. Yes, it is worse in some ways, but also VASTLY superior in others.

Re: Orchestrate teams of Claude Code sessions

#143

Post by nlh »

dangus wrote: post #136
logicx24 wrote: post #131

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can't even get through my Claude Max quota, and that's only 200/mo. And I code every day and use it for various other pretty-intensive tasks.

only $200/mo… $200 a month is a used car payment. I guarantee you that price will double by 2027. Then it’ll be a new car payment! I’m really not saying this to be snarky, I’m saying this to point out that we’re really already in the enshittification phase before the rapid growth phase has even ended. You’re paying $200 and acting like that’s a cheap SaaS product for an individual. I pay less for Autocad products! Th…

I pay $200/month, don’t come near the limits (yet), and if they raised the price to $1000/month for the exact same product I’d gladly pay it this afternoon (Don’t quote me on this Anthropic!)

If you’re not able to get US$thousands out of these models right now either your expectations are too high or your usage is too low, but as a small business owner and part/most-time SWE, the pricing is a rounding error on value delivered.

Re: Orchestrate teams of Claude Code sessions

#144

Post by reactordev »

bluerooibos wrote: post #126

This is great and all but, who can actually afford to let these agents run on tasks all day long? Is anyone here actually using this or are these rollouts aimed at large companies? I'm burning through so many tokens on Cursor that I've had to upgrade to Ultra recently - and i'm convinced they're tweaking the burn rate behind the scenes - usage allowance doesn't seem proportional. Thank god the open source/local LLM w…

You know those VC funded startups with just two founders… them.

Re: Orchestrate teams of Claude Code sessions

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Post by kesslern »

dangus wrote: post #136
logicx24 wrote: post #131

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can't even get through my Claude Max quota, and that's only 200/mo. And I code every day and use it for various other pretty-intensive tasks.

only $200/mo… $200 a month is a used car payment. I guarantee you that price will double by 2027. Then it’ll be a new car payment! I’m really not saying this to be snarky, I’m saying this to point out that we’re really already in the enshittification phase before the rapid growth phase has even ended. You’re paying $200 and acting like that’s a cheap SaaS product for an individual. I pay less for Autocad products! Th…

Not saying $200/mo isn't a lot, but I think you're underestimating used car payments these days. The average US used car payment is above $500 now.

Re: Orchestrate teams of Claude Code sessions

#146

Post by buzzerbetrayed »

dangus wrote: post #136
logicx24 wrote: post #131

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can't even get through my Claude Max quota, and that's only 200/mo. And I code every day and use it for various other pretty-intensive tasks.

only $200/mo… $200 a month is a used car payment. I guarantee you that price will double by 2027. Then it’ll be a new car payment! I’m really not saying this to be snarky, I’m saying this to point out that we’re really already in the enshittification phase before the rapid growth phase has even ended. You’re paying $200 and acting like that’s a cheap SaaS product for an individual. I pay less for Autocad products! Th…

If you can’t get $200 of value out of Claude Code Max, then you need to really step up your game. That’s user error.

Re: Orchestrate teams of Claude Code sessions

#147

Post by geraneum »

nlh wrote: post #143
dangus wrote: post #136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

only $200/mo… $200 a month is a used car payment. I guarantee you that price will double by 2027. Then it’ll be a new car payment! I’m really not saying this to be snarky, I’m saying this to point out that we’re really already in the enshittification phase before the rapid growth phase has even ended. You’re paying $200 and acting like that’s a cheap SaaS product for an individual. I pay less for Autocad products! Th…

I pay $200/month, don’t come near the limits (yet), and if they raised the price to $1000/month for the exact same product I’d gladly pay it this afternoon (Don’t quote me on this Anthropic!) If you’re not able to get US$thousands out of these models right now either your expectations are too high or your usage is too low, but as a small business owner and part/most-time SWE, the pricing is a rounding error on value…

We’re gonna see an economic boom any minute.

Re: Orchestrate teams of Claude Code sessions

#148

Post by buzzerbetrayed »

freeone3000 wrote: post #134
rahimnathwani wrote: post #130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Many many companies can afford to hire a junior engineer for $150k/year (plus employer payroll taxes, employee benefits etc.). Are you spending more than $150k per year on AI? (Also, you're talking about the cost of your Cursor subscription, when the article is about Claude Code. Maybe try Claude Max instead?)

If it could do anything that a junior dev could, that’d be a valid point of comparison. But it continually, wildly performs slower and falls short every time I’ve tried.

I am way more productive with $200/month of AI than I would be with $5,000/month of junior developer. And it isn’t close.

Re: Orchestrate teams of Claude Code sessions

#149

Post by rune-dev »

nlh wrote: post #143
dangus wrote: post #136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

only $200/mo… $200 a month is a used car payment. I guarantee you that price will double by 2027. Then it’ll be a new car payment! I’m really not saying this to be snarky, I’m saying this to point out that we’re really already in the enshittification phase before the rapid growth phase has even ended. You’re paying $200 and acting like that’s a cheap SaaS product for an individual. I pay less for Autocad products! Th…

I pay $200/month, don’t come near the limits (yet), and if they raised the price to $1000/month for the exact same product I’d gladly pay it this afternoon (Don’t quote me on this Anthropic!) If you’re not able to get US$thousands out of these models right now either your expectations are too high or your usage is too low, but as a small business owner and part/most-time SWE, the pricing is a rounding error on value…

As a business expense to make profit, I can understand being ok with this price point.

But as an individual with no profit motive, no way.

I use these products at work, but not as much personally because of the bill. And even if I decided I wanted to pursue a for profit side project I’d have to validate it’s viability before even considering a 200$ monthly subscription

Re: Orchestrate teams of Claude Code sessions

#150

Post by imiric »

nlh wrote: post #143
dangus wrote: post #136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

only $200/mo… $200 a month is a used car payment. I guarantee you that price will double by 2027. Then it’ll be a new car payment! I’m really not saying this to be snarky, I’m saying this to point out that we’re really already in the enshittification phase before the rapid growth phase has even ended. You’re paying $200 and acting like that’s a cheap SaaS product for an individual. I pay less for Autocad products! Th…

I pay $200/month, don’t come near the limits (yet), and if they raised the price to $1000/month for the exact same product I’d gladly pay it this afternoon (Don’t quote me on this Anthropic!) If you’re not able to get US$thousands out of these models right now either your expectations are too high or your usage is too low, but as a small business owner and part/most-time SWE, the pricing is a rounding error on value…

I'm curious: what concrete value have you extracted using these tools that is worth US$thousands?
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