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Re: X offices raided in France as UK opens fresh investigation into Grok

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Grok makes it especially easy to do so.

What makes Grok special compared to random "AI gf generator 9001" which is hosted specifically with the intent of generating NSFW content?

> What makes Grok special

X. xAI isn’t being raided. X is. If Instagram bought a girlfriend generator and built it into its app, it would face liability as well.

Re: X offices raided in France as UK opens fresh investigation into Grok

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I'm not saying I'm entirely against this, but just out of curiosity, what do they hope to find in a raid of the french offices, a folder labeled "Grok's CSAM Plan"?

out of curiosity, what do they hope to find in a raid of the french offices, a folder labeled "Grok's CSAM Plan"?

You're not too far off.

There was a good article in the Washington Post yesterday about many many people inside the company raising alarms about the content and its legal risk, but they were blown off by managers chasing engagement metrics. They even made up a whole new metric.

There was also prompts telling the AI to act angry or sexy or other things just to keep users addicted.

Re: X offices raided in France as UK opens fresh investigation into Grok

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de Gaulle would be considered insanely far right today. Many aspects of Bush (assuming GW here) would be considered not in line with America's far-right today. Assume good intent. It helps you see the actually interesting point being made.

They wrote "Bush was right wing" (unless it was edited), so what's your point in saying "Many aspects of Bush (assuming GW here) would be considered not in line with America's far-right today." ?

Re: X offices raided in France as UK opens fresh investigation into Grok

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This is really amusing to watch, because everything that Grok is accused of is something which you can also trigger in currently available open-weight models (if you know what you're doing). There's nothing special about Grok in this regard. It wasn't trained to be a MechaHitler, nor to generate CSAM. It's just relatively uncensored[1] compared to the competition, which means it can be easily manipulated to do what t…

> everything that Grok is accused of is something which you can also trigger in currently available open-weight models (if you know what you're doing) Well, yes. You can make child pornography with any video-editing software. How is this exoneration?

We don't go after Adobe for doing that. We go after the person who did it.

Re: X offices raided in France as UK opens fresh investigation into Grok

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de Gaulle would be considered insanely far right today. Many aspects of Bush (assuming GW here) would be considered not in line with America's far-right today. Assume good intent. It helps you see the actually interesting point being made.

Bad assumptions are just another form of stupidity.

Re: X offices raided in France as UK opens fresh investigation into Grok

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This is really amusing to watch, because everything that Grok is accused of is something which you can also trigger in currently available open-weight models (if you know what you're doing). There's nothing special about Grok in this regard. It wasn't trained to be a MechaHitler, nor to generate CSAM. It's just relatively uncensored[1] compared to the competition, which means it can be easily manipulated to do what t…

> everything that Grok is accused of is something which you can also trigger in currently available open-weight models (if you know what you're doing) Well, yes. You can make child pornography with any video-editing software. How is this exoneration?

Well you could not sue the video-editing software for someone making child pornography with it. You would, quite sanely, go after the pedophiles themselves.

Re: X offices raided in France as UK opens fresh investigation into Grok

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Every AI system is capable of generating CSAM and deep fakes if requested by a savvy user. The only thing this proves is that you can't upset the French government or they'll go on a fishing expedition through your office praying to find evidence of a crime.

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Re: X offices raided in France as UK opens fresh investigation into Grok

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Every AI system is capable of generating CSAM and deep fakes if requested by a savvy user. The only thing this proves is that you can't upset the French government or they'll go on a fishing expedition through your office praying to find evidence of a crime.

>Every AI system is capable of generating CSAM and deep fakes if requested by a savvy user. The only thing this proves is that you can't upset the French government or they'll go on a fishing expedition through your office praying to find evidence of a crime. If every AI system can do this, and every AI system in incapable of preventing it, then I guess every AI system should be banned until they can figure it out. E…

Every artist is capable of drawing CSAM. Every 3D modeler can render CSAM. Ban all computers !!

Re: X offices raided in France as UK opens fresh investigation into Grok

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> Which is an entirely different legal liability. In UK, it is entirely the same. Near zero. Making/distributing a photo of a non-consenting bikini-wearer is no more illegal when originated by computer in bedroom than done by camera on public beach.

I thought this was about France

It was... until it diverted. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46870196

Re: X offices raided in France as UK opens fresh investigation into Grok

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France24 article on this: https://www.france24.com/en/france/20260203-paris-prosecutor... lol, they summoned Elon for a hearing on 420 "Summons for voluntary interviews on April 20, 2026, in Paris have been sent to Mr. Elon Musk and Ms. Linda Yaccarino, in their capacity as de facto and de jure managers of the X platform at the time of the events,

I wonder how he'll try to get out of being summoned. Claim 4/20 is a holiday that he celebrates?

> Claim 4/20 is a holiday that he celebrates?

Given his recent "far right" bromance that's probably not a good idea ;)

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