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Note that if you have a beard you should be aware that these types of masks don't work well. https://pekesafety.com/blogs/news/a-respirator-that-works-wi...

how soon until we see amazon recommendations: frequently bought together with shaver

Re: Best Gas Masks

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Bewildering comment. Without the anecdotes, this is just a product review. /s?

You misunderstand. > 3M does not provide product information on which filters are best for government repression Great writing. >When I eventually sat down to write my article about the Portland protests, I had a strange kind of epiphany, if it can even be called that. Out in the real world, when drowning in tear gas and adrenaline Bad writing. This is a genius product review right now for all the reasons everyone el…

No, it's actually you who is the one who is misunderstanding.

The product review, while it does stand on its own, is not the main purpose.

The point is to render absurd the incredulous comments from Pam Bondi, "How did these people go out and get gas masks?" Bondi did not ask this question to receive an answer, "oh, they go to Home Depot and get model X-54-Whatever." The point of her question was to cast aspersion on the protestors, to attempt to delegitimize their grievances by painting them as paid, professional agitators. It's the sort of "I'm just sayin'" bullshit rhetoric we've all had to deal with from racist uncles at Thanksgiving for the last 25 years.

Jeong's article works by failing to engage Bondi's comments on Bondi's grounds. Jeong's use of product review as a structure for her article is a conceit that treats Bondi's comments as a legitimate request for product reviews, side-stepping the concept that only paid professionals could ever know anything about gas masks, because information on the Internet is and wants to be free.

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For folks who are actually going to go down this rabbit hole, yes the 3M 6800 series and the GVS respirators are great, and work with very similar cartridge-style filters. That said, a mask alone is not sufficient, and I really recommend you get a Tyvek bunny suit also to protect your skin against chemical exposure. Given the current weather, it's relatively easy to cover over the bunny suit with your outerwear like a hoodie so it's not even necessarily visibly super-obvious, and it will do a lot to help protect you. It's not just your eyes, nose, and mouth you want to protect but every area of your skin ideally.

Also tear-gas canisters are very hot when fired, because tear gas is produced and released via a pyrotechnic reaction inside the canister, basically burning a dry chemical to produce the gas. I recommend wearing a heavy (7mil or 9mil) nitrile glove with your bunny suit and over that wearing leather welding gloves or heat-rated mechanics gloves if you expect to encounter tear gas canisters so you can pick them up and throw them back.

Also, be aware that the filter canisters on most masks are only good for about 45 minutes to 2 hours (depending on exposure levels) when used in an environment where you are actively being exposed to the chemicals you want to filter. You need additional replacement filters that are /sealed/ in their packaging to swap out to in the field. Good luck out there.

Re: Best Gas Masks

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The gusto to post an Amazon affiliate listicle?

this article has 19 paragraphs of text in just the main article body, making three recommendations. it’s pretty rich to both decry media literacy issues in sibling comments while completely elastically using the word “listicle”

There is no actionable advice other than "get something durable". Nothing about filtration grades and classes, about particle sizes to worry about, about how filter choice affects longevity, breathability, stamina, etc.

Were I to recommend anybody join anti-LE riots (which I categorically do not, in this case), and if I even remotely cared about the wellbeing of my readers (which the author categorically does not, in this case), I would touch on those types of details instead of stringing quasi-random affiliate links together using sob stories, self-congratulations and agitprop.

Re: Best Gas Masks

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An amazon affiliate link wrapped in the mantle of edgy resistance. Ignoring that, why would anybody take this site serious for gasmask recommendations? Shallow and fast-food level information.

Or, a satire of the state of the US in the format of a affiliate review article.

Re: Best Gas Masks

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"Military grade" listed as a pro on one of them... uhhh well true military grade means it was produced by the lowest bidder to just barely meet specifications in the test environment.

True, but in this case, civilian requirements may be "protects against ambient fumes" while the military specs are "protects against deadly gases that are designed to try to get around gas masks while standing up to impacts and sweat and still allowing enough freedom of movement to engage in combat". Like yeah a mil-spec spoon isn't going to be substantially different than a civilian spoon, but there are some things that even barely meeting the military standard at the lowest possible price is still better than what you get going for civilian specs

Re: Best Gas Masks

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The Verge has truly become one of the most respected sites on the web. Some of the best reporting, tech or otherwise, is being done there. Kudos

Yeah, this is quality content right here, > Durable enough to survive a scuffle with a right-wing extremist, even if the bones of your hand do not

Can you clarify what you take issue with?

Re: Best Gas Masks

#148

Note that if you have a beard you should be aware that these types of masks don't work well. https://pekesafety.com/blogs/news/a-respirator-that-works-wi...

I still remember old bioweapons threat levels. Level 1 was no threat. At level 3 everyone was required to shave.

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While NYT etc mostly stand back as the U.S. crosses the rubicon, what started as a freaking gadget review site seems to employ nearly all the journalists with actual gusto left in America.

It's disappointing that people increasingly expect news to be propaganda for their own side. The news is meant to be a source of information. You don't have to agree with everything an article has to say to get useful information from it. There is no shortage of quasi-revolutionary content on the internet if that's what you seek.

When information is politicized (eg do vaccines work) then being a source of information can been seen as propaganda for your side.

Re: Best Gas Masks

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post #94

The Verge has truly become one of the most respected sites on the web. Some of the best reporting, tech or otherwise, is being done there. Kudos

Now that's a hilarious comment. The Verge has become a joke website.

I'm curious ... what are you doing in the comments section of an HN post about an article from The Verge then? I mean I look at articles from El Reg even though it's clearly yellow journalism, and sometimes I do it partially for the same reason someone might listen to a crazy person ranting on the train. Is that it?
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