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Celebrities say they are being censored by TikTok after speaking out against ICE

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Not sure why this is flagged? One of the largest social media platforms in the industry changed ownership, its user base is noticing an unexplained change in functionality? Surely that warrants a discussion among tech people?

There is a certain proto-fascist contingent here that sees it to their duty to stifle all discussion critical of the regime.

Re: Celebrities say they are being censored by TikTok after speaking out against ICE

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This isn't very compelling. It's 2 anecdotes and a pretty damning final paragraph. Is there any more reliable data?

Data? No. None of these companies are making their data freely available for analysis or being transparent about how their algorithms work. People have complained for a while that Twitter / X seems to suppress the visibility and reach of profiles or posts that disagree with Musk’s views. The recent open sourcing of their algorithm is meaningless since there’s no evidence of what they actually have in production or wh…

The fact that social media companies aren't mandated by law to provide transparency into reach / visibility is a travesty.

It should be fucking table stakes for being able to run a business with that much power and influence.

Re: Celebrities say they are being censored by TikTok after speaking out against ICE

#143

Not sure why this is flagged? One of the largest social media platforms in the industry changed ownership, its user base is noticing an unexplained change in functionality? Surely that warrants a discussion among tech people?

these topics are controversial for people who support the current US government, they don't want to see it on their tech-news website (even though it's called hacker news, the spirit of the hacker manifesto is not alive here).

Funnily enough, these flagged topics seem to spark a lot of conversation, and the voices of the government supporters are not heard here...So they just flag and move on, not even trying to defend their position

Re: Celebrities say they are being censored by TikTok after speaking out against ICE

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post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And all the people that died because of him, is that intended?

Who are all the people? Unfortunately for Trump, he doesn't control every trigger that gets pulled but now we are seeing de-escalation.

How about these people? https://hsph.harvard.edu/news/usaid-shutdown-has-led-to-hund...

After the previous public execution by ICE, Stephen Miller said they have federal immunity (which is a lie), and it led us to where we are now.

Trump is responsible for hiring these idiots.

Re: Celebrities say they are being censored by TikTok after speaking out against ICE

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post #43

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I don't think the parent said it was. This is clearly closer to mercantilism, given the degree of government involvement.

They've claimed this is the result of or at the behest of 'ultra capitalism'. I don't even mind hyperbole--call it fascism if you want--but at least use the dimensionally-correct terms. This is like when people call everything 'neoliberal'.

Isn't neoliberal just Friedman and the Chicago boyz' liberalism? So policies enacted by Reagan, Pinochet and Thatchers?

Re: Celebrities say they are being censored by TikTok after speaking out against ICE

#146
post #37

I have a bit of experience with video platforms. It’s really hard to say which video will work or not. What people react to and what not. All I’m saying is that this could also potentially be explained by "The Algorithm" per se.

Support for ICE is in minority (although a large one). I don't think algorithm would suppress negative opinions on it, especially among viewership of celebrities that don't appeal to the right side of political spectrum.

Well, you're wrong. This article has more info but is login- or paywalled.

https://www.theverge.com/news/867625/tiktok-down-weekend-bro...

Re: Celebrities say they are being censored by TikTok after speaking out against ICE

#147

In transparency will do this. No one can know what TikTok censors or penalizes in its algorithms. All other social media platforms are equally intransparent, what is new is that TikTok is not American.

TikTok is now owned by an American company. As soon as that change happened, the censorship began.

https://www.theverge.com/news/867625/tiktok-down-weekend-bro...

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>they disarm him, and the execution happens after that, You're leaving the part out where a gunshot is heard right before they "execute" him. The officers with their fingers on the trigger pointed at him during detainment, got scared of that gunshot and jumped on the trigger by accident. It's an unfortunate accident but not an execution. Read up the legal definition of execution. This is not it.

I have literally never met anyone as delusional as you on HN. Your comments are just on the absolute edge of sanity, and the only hope I have is that you are an actual russian troll trying to sow discontent and not an actual real human that holds these beliefs earnestly. It just leaves me wondering - how do you look yourself in the mirror each day? I guess it must be super easy if you just look at what happened there…

>I have literally never met anyone as delusional as you on HN.

Pot calling the kettle black.

>the only hope I have is that you are an actual russian troll

Yes, you are not the minority opinion, you are 100% correct and everyone disagreeing with you is a russian troll.

Re: Celebrities say they are being censored by TikTok after speaking out against ICE

#149

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>they disarm him, and the execution happens after that, You're leaving the part out where a gunshot is heard right before they "execute" him. The officers with their fingers on the trigger pointed at him during detainment, got scared of that gunshot and jumped on the trigger by accident. It's an unfortunate accident but not an execution. Read up the legal definition of execution. This is not it.

He was shot eleven times to the back of his head .

>eleven times to the back of his head

Please stop making up stuff.

Re: Celebrities say they are being censored by TikTok after speaking out against ICE

#150

Celebrities should consider maybe not using social media things controlled by the regime? Like, other social media is available.

They will follow wherever the network effect goes, the same way that more influencers are posting to Bluesky in addition to Twitter now, and some of them are making the move entirely.
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