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Re: Iran's internet blackout may become permanent, with access for elites only

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No shot. The economy is already in the gutter. The productivity hit of a total internet cutoff would be a death sentence

I don’t think a lot of their economy depends on the internet. Even rich countries in the Middle East would continue to sell oil if the internet wasn’t functional. Might cause some logistical issues but nothing that can’t be done over the phone.

Re: Iran's internet blackout may become permanent, with access for elites only

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post #109
post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The people complaining probably live in the UK or are related to it somehow. Then it would make sense that they are more worried about authoritarianism in the UK rather than in South America. And even if the man was wearing a proper "Palestine Action" shirt that'd still be pretty concerning. It is an insane stretch to say that wearing a shirt represents a matter for police action. How far the world has moved on from…

The people complaining were American AFAICT and weren’t worried by either, they were just drawing hyperbolic equivalences between suppression of speech and state orchestrated mass kidnapping and murder.

If we're talking about the Palestine Action shirt, Israel is defending against accusations [0] that they are genocidal. The police action of the UK seems like it could be pretty easily construed as suppression of speech in support of state orchestrated mass kidnapping and murder on a concerning scale.

Whatever is happening in SA might be as bad, I suppose, but I don't speak Spanish or have any family connection there so I'm not going to look it up. Although if they're genocidal then they should stop too, should that need to be said.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Africa's_genocide_case_a...

Re: Iran's internet blackout may become permanent, with access for elites only

#143
post #114

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https://honestreporting.com/message-to-the-media-stop-publis... > Weeks after it was exposed that Hamas’ so-called “Gaza Health Ministry” has been circulating false casualty figures, much of the media are still reporting them without a hint of skepticism. > In April, research by Salo Aizenberg, a board member of HonestReporting, revealed that thousands of previously “identified” deaths — including more than 1,000 chi…

Noted.

Also noted, re: the two sources cited:

* In November 2024, Honest Reporting Canada's assistant director, Robert Walker, was criminally charged with 17 counts of mischief for allegedly vandalizing several properties in a Toronto neighborhood by spray painting anti-Palestinian graffiti.

~ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HonestReporting

and

* (Henry Jackson Society) Co-founder Matthew Jamison, who now works for YouGov, wrote in 2017 that he was ashamed of his involvement, having never imagined the Henry Jackson Society "would become a far-right, deeply anti-Muslim racist ... propaganda outfit to smear other cultures, religions and ethnic groups". He claimed that "The HJS for many years has relentlessly demonised Muslims and Islam".

~ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Jackson_Society

Re: Iran's internet blackout may become permanent, with access for elites only

#144
post #19

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A company using legal action to protect their IP rights is so different from a theocratic dictatorship shutting down the entire Internet to prevent their overthrow. Perhaps you don't follow the news about Iran but these comments are incredibly daft.

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Khomenei is called the "supreme leader" since 89. His predecessor betrayed his allies by wording a referendum for the abolition of the monarchy weirdly, making it instead about the installation of a theocracy.

(i don't want to make it overly political, but once again the historical materialist offshots of the revolutionary groups are the only ones who understood the betrayal and called a boycott of this referendum. Please listen to marxists when they're in a coup, they are so used to betrayal they'll see it comming)

Re: Iran's internet blackout may become permanent, with access for elites only

#145
post #137

I've been moderately happy this morning to find out I can open hackernews. Also Gmail is working. After attempting to get bridges using email and configuring an dozen of them I got 100% connection but then it disconnected without me being able to connect to anything. I would assume some sort of tunneling must be possible cause the services available are varied and not limited to a few websites (We only had access to…

I there anything the outside world can do? Like are the people relying on https://snowflake.torproject.org/ and adding bandwidth there actually makes a difference?

Unfortunately if it's public the government can also see it and block it :(

Re: Iran's internet blackout may become permanent, with access for elites only

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> perhaps they will now form pleasant relationships and have joyful interactions You do understand what’s happening in Iran, right? Hard to take your comment seriously.

A small price to pay, surely, to be rescued from the mind flaying less fortunate people in corporate hellholes must face daily. Even with ublock Origin, these corporations will build a profile on me. Not so in Iran, where people can live without the watchful eye of Google looking at everything they do.

> less fortunate people in corporate hellholes must face daily

I'm sorry but how tone-deaf can someone be? Over 12.000 people have been killed in the protests with some reports going up to 30.000 since then and here you are happy about the fact that Google cannot profile them anymore. Protesters are beeing shot on-masse in the streets and families from outside the country have no ideas if their brothers and sisters are even still alive. Have some decency.

Re: Iran's internet blackout may become permanent, with access for elites only

#147
post #19

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So people wouldn't stream the games ilegally... the private entity that owns the rights to broadcasting the games can arbitrarily ban whole subnets. the end result is well... not good: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45323856

A company using legal action to protect their IP rights is so different from a theocratic dictatorship shutting down the entire Internet to prevent their overthrow. Perhaps you don't follow the news about Iran but these comments are incredibly daft.

You don't see a problem if private companies get the right to decide who to block from the internet, without any process?

Re: Iran's internet blackout may become permanent, with access for elites only

#148
post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A company using legal action to protect their IP rights is so different from a theocratic dictatorship shutting down the entire Internet to prevent their overthrow. Perhaps you don't follow the news about Iran but these comments are incredibly daft.

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Iran is a democratic republic just like the 'democratic peoples republic' of North Korea is, i.e. not at all. It is remarkable how often entities which use the term 'democratic' do not live up to the concept it refers to

Re: Iran's internet blackout may become permanent, with access for elites only

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Which of those words classify as "hate"?

I'm answering so others who read this can know my reasoning, not to explain to you, because you know exactly what you are writing. The rhetoric that Sweden, Germany, UK and France are Muslim countries is exclusivley used by very far-right standing people to fearmonger and hate against immigrants. What would it even mean for these countries to be Muslim? Germany has literally a party with "Christian" in their name in…

Accusing people you disagree with of being "very far right" to automatically discredit them without arguments, is the ultimate bad faith cheat code of online debates. If you want, we can have this conversation over another medium where I can share you the data from government sources that prove my point as being mathematically and logically sound, and not "far right". THere's no point continuing here since HN anyway bans such discussions as inflammatory without right to appeal regardless of what data/arguments you bring to the table, so even if you win the argument, you still loose.

Re: Iran's internet blackout may become permanent, with access for elites only

#150

There must be so much video footage from smartphones during the demonstations that show gruesome killings and masacres, the iranian elites have to make sure this footage never sees the rest of the world. They have to ban the internet forever.

They likely try to find and remove a lot of these videos (and their owners) before turning on the internet.
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