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Comma openpilot – Open source driver-assistance

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Re: Comma openpilot – Open source driver-assistance

#143

I read at least one thread per day criticizing Tesla self-driving (which has hundreds of highly-paid engineers working on it) as unreliable vaporware, meanwhile I'm supposed to hack my car with some code off a GitHub repo? I'll be adding this to my list of 101 creative ways to die, behind basement apartment in Venice, Italy.

My thoughts exactly. This is a horrible idea for a bunch of reasons. Real driver assist systems are tested for each car for millions of miles before release. I can imagine this as a toy on a recreational vehicle like an ATV, but it's outright reckless to put this on a real car.

Except this works so much better than the stock driver assist on most cars.

Re: Comma openpilot – Open source driver-assistance

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> Currently, openpilot performs the functions of Adaptive Cruise Control (ACC) and Automated Lane Centering (ALC). openpilot can accelerate, brake automatically for other vehicles, and steer to follow the road/lane. [1] [Some of the] Cars that are currently supported already have "smart cruise" and "lane follow". Why then use a third-party self-driving system? [1] https://comma.ai/openpilot#:~:text=Currently%2C%20ope…

I have a car with smart cruise, but there's plenty of room for improvement. It isn't very smart at determining when it can avoid braking, such as when a car well ahead has slowed for a right turn. It also brakes too aggressively when someone cuts in front of me on the highway, in situations where just lifting off the gas would be better. It also times out very quickly when traffic comes to a complete standstill, requ…

I’m fine with BlueCruise but my free sub is up next year and that’s when I’ll look into comma hardware.

Re: Comma openpilot – Open source driver-assistance

#145

I read at least one thread per day criticizing Tesla self-driving (which has hundreds of highly-paid engineers working on it) as unreliable vaporware, meanwhile I'm supposed to hack my car with some code off a GitHub repo? I'll be adding this to my list of 101 creative ways to die, behind basement apartment in Venice, Italy.

Creating an open source project makes a space for collaboration. There is a future where every manufacturer shares the same self-driving software. You already trust your privacy and financial security to open source projects. There is a future where you also trust it for a self driving car.

> You already trust your privacy and financial security to open source projects.

Neither of which have safety-of-life implications. If your email or bank gets hacked they don't bury you in a box.

Re: Comma openpilot – Open source driver-assistance

#146

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Why not? You are free to modify your vehicle in almost anyway you want as a consumer. Should someone putting some rain shields on their window require licensing and government testing for it because it might break off? Should generic brake pads or tierod ends require independent government testing or approval to be purchased and used? Regulations don't exist to save people from their own stupid mistakes, they exist t…

>You are free to modify your vehicle in almost anyway you want as a consumer. States have window tinting laws to save people (and others around then) from their own idiocy.

States have window tinting laws to help police to pull over, harass, identify, and/or profile people in the pursuit of profit and control. The main justification for window tint laws is "protecting law enforcement", which is itself is a bad excuse, but everything beyond that is definitely complete bullcrap because the tinting laws differ so completely between states, with some states not caring at all. Many states with tinting laws have zero laws about maintenance or inspection of vehicles which is all but proof that the safety of the public is not even a real consideration. You can literally have sharp jagged chunks of rusty metal hanging off your car and its not illegal.

Re: Comma openpilot – Open source driver-assistance

#147

Really impressive tech. I don't understand the insurance ramifications of installing and using this system. Comma's website links to a 7 year old reddit thread: https://comma.ai/support#will-my-insurance-cover-my-car-with... As a driver, if in an accident, could someone reasonably assert that you were not paying attention?

In an accident, culpability cannot transfer to a computer ostensibly running under your supervision. As a driver, you likely sign away all claims to blaming CommaAI when you accept the EULA & ToS updates.

I'd be more concerned about insurance being voided due to an undeclared modification to the vehicle.

In the UK any third-parties will still be compensated, but the first-party will get nothing and will struggle to get car insurance in the future.

Re: Comma openpilot – Open source driver-assistance

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

His LinkedIn says he stopped being president in November. https://www.linkedin.com/in/george-hotz-b3866476 I haven't seen any other news about it.

Im shocked Hotz has a LinkedIn. That seems antithetical to his entire existence.

You're not wrong. Read his profile.

    I used to joke about how I used LinkedIn as a dating site, but in the current year this just isn't that funny anymore. The professional managerial class I was mocking is quickly losing its grasp on power, so it's unclear if I'm still punching up.

    How many of the messages here even come from real people anymore? How many of those people have pronouns in their bio? Are they GPT/GPT?

    We have a big task ahead of us to define what the "new business" looks like. Comparatively, the revolution is the easy part.

Re: Comma openpilot – Open source driver-assistance

#149
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How does it steer the wheel) Is there like an "API standard" for sending steering direction to cars via some physical port?

The control messages are transmitted via CAN bus

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CAN_bus

The exact message content and protocols are reverse engineered.

Some cars use FlexRay instead of CAN bus but that has only experimental support.

Re: Comma openpilot – Open source driver-assistance

#150

> Currently, openpilot performs the functions of Adaptive Cruise Control (ACC) and Automated Lane Centering (ALC). openpilot can accelerate, brake automatically for other vehicles, and steer to follow the road/lane. [1] [Some of the] Cars that are currently supported already have "smart cruise" and "lane follow". Why then use a third-party self-driving system? [1] https://comma.ai/openpilot#:~:text=Currently%2C%20ope…

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