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Our approach to age prediction

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Re: Our approach to age prediction

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Post by mmooss »

Their teen content restrictions

> ChatGPT automatically applies additional protections designed to reduce exposure to sensitive content, such as:

  * Graphic violence or gory content
  * Viral challenges that could encourage risky or
    harmful behavior in minors
  * Sexual, romantic, or violent role play
  * Depictions of self-harm
  * Content that promotes extreme beauty standards,
    unhealthy dieting, or body shaming
That wording implies that's not comprehensive, but hate and disinformation are omitted.

Re: Our approach to age prediction

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Post by rainonmoon »

sho_hn wrote: post #17
DarkNova6 wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that"

I'm an engineer working on safety-critical systems and have to live with that responsibility every day. When I read the chat logs of the first teenager who committed suicide with the help and encouragement of ChatGPT I was immediately thinking about ways that could be avoided that make sense in the product. I want companies like OpenAI to have the same reaction and try things. I'm just glad they are. I'm also fully a…

A society which took psychological safety seriously would never have created ChatGPT in the first place. But of course seriously advocating for safety would cost one their toys, and for one unwilling to pay that cost, empowering the surveillance apparatus seems very reasonable and easily confused for safe. When one’s children or friends’ children can no longer enter an airport because some vibe-coded slop leaked their biometrics, we’ll see if that holds true.

Re: Our approach to age prediction

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Post by rendaw »

samename wrote: post #29
jampa wrote: post #15

I imagine they're building this system with the goal of extracting user demographics (age, sex, income) from chat conversations to improve advertising monetization. This seems to be a side project of their goal and a good way to calibrate the future ad system predictions.

Exactly, all under the guise of "protect the children" - a tried and true surveillance and control trope.

Every "protect the children" measure that involves increased surveillance is balanced by an equal and opposing "now the criminal pedophiles in positions of power have more information on targets".

Re: Our approach to age prediction

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Post by adrianwaj »

raw_anon_1111 wrote: post #139
adrianwaj wrote: post #129

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I think they really should charge with micropayments, and they could even roll out their own currency for that if need be. Ads suck. Actually, all the AI companies together should choose a micropayment system to focus on. I know in fashion, I've seen what would seem like competing brands center around a common "pillar of influence." Also, if (long-tail?) AI companies work together, they could install appliances and t…

People have been suggesting a micro payment system for the web for over a quarter century https://www.w3.org/TR/1999/WD-Micropayment-Markup-19990825/ Why would you want to use a terminal for mass transit instead of your phone?

I prefer dumb phones, and then prefer to not have to carry one 24/7. Device lock-in is a whole other discussion. Why can't phones be switched off anyhow in terms of telco signal? Yet their Wifi and Bluetooth can be. Weird. What are they doing in stealth?

Look how cheap x402 transactions are (ie almost free) https://gemini.google.com/share/cbf1adb1570c It's a new thing - have business models adapted accordingly?

Re: Our approach to age prediction

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Post by raw_anon_1111 »

adrianwaj wrote: post #144
raw_anon_1111 wrote: post #139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People have been suggesting a micro payment system for the web for over a quarter century https://www.w3.org/TR/1999/WD-Micropayment-Markup-19990825/ Why would you want to use a terminal for mass transit instead of your phone?

I prefer dumb phones, and then prefer to not have to carry one 24/7. Device lock-in is a whole other discussion. Why can't phones be switched off anyhow in terms of telco signal? Yet their Wifi and Bluetooth can be. Weird. What are they doing in stealth? Look how cheap x402 transactions are (ie almost free) https://gemini.google.com/share/cbf1adb1570c It's a new thing - have business models adapted accordingly?

You don’t think your preference for not using a smart phone makes a viable market do you - seeing global penetration of smartphones is 90% and even higher among those who can afford to travel?

Re: Our approach to age prediction

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Post by big_toast »

WarmWash wrote: post #127
raw_anon_1111 wrote: post #121

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If you don’t want ads, pay for ChatGPT. If you aren’t making them money via ads or subscriptions, why should they care about you?

People who haven't seen an ad or paid a subscription in 20 years are still trying to figure out why no one listens to their opinion on how to make the internet better. I wouldn't hold my breath...

Not sure if you're referring to me, or making a more general comment.

I'd listen to someone who has managed to not see an ad or pay for a subscription in 20 years. Sounds pretty impressive.

Me, I've seen a lot of ads and happily paid for chatgpt plus, pro, and the api. Not that I think that privileges my opinion.

Re: Our approach to age prediction

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Post by notatoad »

kube-system wrote: post #60
jampa wrote: post #15

I imagine they're building this system with the goal of extracting user demographics (age, sex, income) from chat conversations to improve advertising monetization. This seems to be a side project of their goal and a good way to calibrate the future ad system predictions.

I think they're quite explicitly saying they already can determine your demographics from your chats. Which is almost certainly true for most users.

they definitely can do that already, and chatGPT will happily tell you all the demographics it thinks it knows about you if you ask it.

Re: Our approach to age prediction

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Post by adrianwaj »

raw_anon_1111 wrote: post #145
adrianwaj wrote: post #144

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I prefer dumb phones, and then prefer to not have to carry one 24/7. Device lock-in is a whole other discussion. Why can't phones be switched off anyhow in terms of telco signal? Yet their Wifi and Bluetooth can be. Weird. What are they doing in stealth? Look how cheap x402 transactions are (ie almost free) https://gemini.google.com/share/cbf1adb1570c It's a new thing - have business models adapted accordingly?

You don’t think your preference for not using a smart phone makes a viable market do you - seeing global penetration of smartphones is 90% and even higher among those who can afford to travel?

I think compulsory 2FA and the trend towards must-have downloadable phone apps is a problem, but that may not be fully evident... yet. In my experience, being tied to a phone and phone number is a problem. Also, when you carry your phone, your funds are at risk too from tech-jacking (as opposed to car-jacking) .. especially with crypto, right?

"I keep a cheap travel eSim plan active on it so that if I am somewhere sketchy I can leave my main phone at home." https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46639157

It's a personal choice - you are also tied to a battery charger. Wait, solar panels are getting better.

Why is it so difficult to run a mobile app on a PC? Why can't there be a device that I connect to my laptop to turn it into a phone (voice + texts) whenever the need arises? Weird. What's with the identification required at SIM point-of-sale? Is someone trying to track me or something?

Re: Our approach to age prediction

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Post by aaronblohowiak »

Jonovono wrote: post #132
loloquwowndueo wrote: post #112

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Forever young, my dude. Forever young.

Haha ya I asked my my younger brother if he’s gotten it and he said he didn’t. I’m like alright I must give off youthful vibes ;)

sigma rizzler, no cap.

Re: Our approach to age prediction

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Post by rsync »

Retr0id wrote: post #34

Everyone's saying this is for advertising, but I don't think it is. It's so they can let ChatGPT sext with adults.

It’s worse than that.

They want to build “the scream room” from Frank Herbert’s _The Jesus Incident_.

There is immense power to wield over someone when you know what they did in the scream room.

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