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Re: Nonviolence

#141

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If the case was truly just I suspect you could find pro bono or contingency legal services to handle your appeal much easier than people sympathetic to the violence.

ok, I happen to be looking for exactly that right now. Why don't you find me one.

Well you know…If you are having trouble, you might consider that as a referendum on just how strong your case actually is.

Good luck

Re: Nonviolence

#142

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ok, I happen to be looking for exactly that right now. Why don't you find me one.

Well you know…If you are having trouble, you might consider that as a referendum on just how strong your case actually is. Good luck

This response is offensive in its ignorance

Re: Nonviolence

#143

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Well you know…If you are having trouble, you might consider that as a referendum on just how strong your case actually is. Good luck

This response is offensive in its ignorance

You know, it was you that decided to drag your personal situation into the conversation, not me. Be offended, or not—I’m indifferent.

Re: Nonviolence

#144

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This response is offensive in its ignorance

You know, it was you that decided to drag your personal situation into the conversation, not me. Be offended, or not—I’m indifferent.

You know, I look forward to the day this unjust system that you blindly and stupidly trust bites you, too.

Re: Nonviolence

#145

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You know, it was you that decided to drag your personal situation into the conversation, not me. Be offended, or not—I’m indifferent.

You know, I look forward to the day this unjust system that you blindly and stupidly trust bites you, too.

And if that day comes I still won’t resort to violence…or even consider it.

Good luck.

Re: Nonviolence

#146

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You know, I look forward to the day this unjust system that you blindly and stupidly trust bites you, too.

And if that day comes I still won’t resort to violence…or even consider it. Good luck.

When exactly did I say that I would resort to violence, or considered violence, or advocate for it, or suggest it?

Re: Nonviolence

#147
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The linked tweet > BREAKING: The ICE agent who fatally shot Renee Good on Jan. 7 in Minneapolis, Jonathan Ross, suffered internal bleeding to the torso following the incident, according to two U.S. officials briefed on his medical condition. That’s just CBS reporting hearsay from non first party sources in an admin that’s been caught directly lying about the events cutting local authorities out of the investigation.…

Ah… so the media is all “hearsay” say when you don’t like what it says? She hit an agent with her car. She accelerated with him in front of the car BEFORE he drew his gun. Her wife yelled DRIVE BABY, DRIVE DRIVE, then complained why the cops had to use “real bullets”. I see no scenario other than these were two people playing a game and not know that reality wasn’t playing along.

No it’s hearsay when it’s this

> …according to two U.S. officials briefed on his medical condition.

They are reporting what someone heard and then said, it is not a primary source.

Kinda sounds like you disagree with media when you don’t like what it says.

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#148

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I’m not sure that logically tracks. You (likely) act in a non-violent way every day. If you want some kind of change in your life, you achieve it non-violently. Does that imply you are are actually a violent person that is choosing not to be violent? Are you implying “something violent” every day you act like a good person? MLK didn’t have support because people were afraid of the alternative. They supported him beca…

Let's say you live in an apartment building and your landlord locks you out and keeps you belongings. Police say its not their problem. Courts decide that they don't aare either. So now you have no recourse or body to complain to. In that situation saying "i resolve problems non-violently every day" stops being relevenat. The mechanisms that allow you to do so (enforcement, law, etc) have been removed as they were fo…

This happened to me. Police did nothing. I was informed I had the legal right to break the door down to get my belongings. I did so.

The only reason a scummy landlord doesn't enact violence against you for money is that he can expect violence against him in return. So it supports the claim. Nonviolence can only happen when backed up by the possibility of violence.

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#149
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If you break the law, what happens to you? What does the state do to you? Like say you persistently just refuse to pay a parking ticket after court orders to do so?

You're missing the point -- I don't refuse to pay a parking ticket after the court orders me to do so. I don't stand in the checkout line trying to figure out how to run out without paying. I don't threaten people on the sidewalk and take their money when I notice there aren't any police around at the moment. I trust that the vast, vast majority of people act similarly. If they didn't, no amount of law enforcement wo…

Why don't you? It's because violence will happen to you if you do. Nonviolence, backed by threats of violence.

Re: Nonviolence

#150

This is a good articulation of mlkjr's theology and dicipline around nonviolence, but I think its incomplete if you read it in isolation. His strategy worked because it existed alongside MANY other voices, IMO the most underrated of which is Malcolm X, that rejected this "gradualism" outright and refused endless delay. They weren't organizing violence but they were instead making it credible that there is a world whe…

Today, history remembers MLK as a great man. There are parades in his honor, workers are given a day off. Rosa Parks is another peaceful pioneer credited with bringing strides forward. Malcolm X and others are already fading from memory.

Remembrance does not imply causation
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