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Re: Apple Said to Acquire Color

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Post by twog »

lutusp wrote: post #128
pooriaazimi wrote: post #127

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It's sad; so many people waste their time commenting here on HN not knowing they're hellbanned: http://www.hnsearch.com/search#request/comments&q=hellba...

Easily detected: 1. Log off your HN account. 2. Browse, look for your own posts. The only reason a hellbanned person can't tell he's been hellbanned is because he's logged on as himself. The reason others can tell is because they aren't logged on as him. The solution is obvious -- log off and visit HN anonymously.

Sorry if this is a newbie question, but can someone explain to me what being hellbanned is?

Re: Apple Said to Acquire Color

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Post by Hari_Seldon »

dmd wrote: post #138
Hari_Seldon wrote: post #134

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Spotify is online music, what are you talking about?

http://www.spotify.com/us/about/features/offline-mode/

That link explains a mode by which Spotify's cloud based music can be available offline. iTunes Match gives access to YOUR OWN music via the cloud. Do you not see the difference?

I have 15,000 songs in my iTunes library, the vast majority of which are not on Spotify. My 16GB iPhone would normally only hold a fraction of my music but with an iTunes Match subscription I have access to it all.

Also, it gives an off-site back up of every matched song. So tell me, how is iTunes Match similar to Spotify?

Re: Apple Said to Acquire Color

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Post by salimmadjd »

jballanc wrote: post #121

Nope, this doesn't smell right... In fact, this smells like an intentional leak by someone on Color's side in an effort to boost their price to some other potential buyer (counting on Apple's legendary no-comment streak to bolster the appearance of the rumor). Think about the last time something leaked about an Apple acquisition before the deal was closed...right, never! In fact, Apple has notoriously remained quiet…

I'd second your assertions. I've met one of Color's employees(in products team) early on and walked away thinking this company is going nowhere. Not sure what apple is gaining by buying this company. Frankly, they'd been better off buying NIK Software. If they are truly buying Color they're out of their minds.

Re: Apple Said to Acquire Color

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Post by pooriaazimi »

twog wrote: post #141
lutusp wrote: post #128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Easily detected: 1. Log off your HN account. 2. Browse, look for your own posts. The only reason a hellbanned person can't tell he's been hellbanned is because he's logged on as himself. The reason others can tell is because they aren't logged on as him. The solution is obvious -- log off and visit HN anonymously.

Sorry if this is a newbie question, but can someone explain to me what being hellbanned is?

http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2011/06/suspension-ban-or-h...

It's quite a brilliant thing. The problem is mods are really abusing it here on HN (you should hallban seasoned trolls. Not someone that trolls once or twice in a year, or worse, someone who isn't even trolling but just said something stupid or out-of-place).

Re: Apple Said to Acquire Color

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Post by cjensen »

r00fus wrote: post #81
cjensen wrote: post #34

There's no reason for Apple to buy Color. A couple of patents on recently invented stuff? Unlikely. Buying the patents would make sense, not buying the company. Acquire a team? Why not just hire them? Is the team really that attached to a company going nowhere? So I call this rumor nonsense. On the other hand, if this rumor is true it says a lot about Apple management and none of it good.

And Google buying MOTO for $12B is good management? Motorola hasn't really produced anything of value since acquisition for Google aside from the patent pool. $XXM is a drop in the bucket for Apple - they could fund 10x that without blinking if the patents were deemed to be worth it. They have 10000x that in the bank already.

Google bought MOTO for the patents. Major portfolios like Motorola's have been going for a lot of money lately. So while I think it was a poor investment, it really depends on whether or not that huge portfolio is useful to Google.

Color has nothing comparable.

Re: Apple Said to Acquire Color

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Post by grey-area »

tjogin wrote: post #140
grey-area wrote: post #109

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This isn't just about social apps. If this story is true it really doesn't reflect well on Apple's senior management. Apple will continue to print money in the immediate future, just as Microsoft did in the 00's, but buying a startup which never had a viable product, business plan or assets for an inflated valuation like this is a good sign that Apple has lost direction and focus. Social is not their core competence,…

Nothing Apple has ever done in the social context has ever reflected well on Apple's senior management. They survived Ping, they'll survive this. And it won't be a nailbiter. Wanna bet?

I'm sure they'll survive, and yes they don't have a good record on social and cloud stuff from mobile me to ping. But jumped the shark doesn't mean they'll go out of business this year or this decade, it just means they're at the start of a long slow decline in quality and are out of ideas - that won't stop them making lots of money though, in fact whether they make money and survive is not really related to whether they have 'jumped the shark'.

Re: Apple Said to Acquire Color

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Post by Galaxier »

raganwald wrote: post #28
signa11 wrote: post #11

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if you don't mind may you please elaborate on the above post in the context of this headline ? thank you !

Here's the real color.com VC pitch, not the fake one they distributed. ===== "Look, we want a bunch of money from you VCs. A LOT of it. Here's what we've got: Some great patents, and the prospect of some more as we continue R&D. More importantly, these patents are in a strategically critical space where Google, Samsung, Apple, and Microsoft are all vying for supremacy. "So here's what we're going to do with your mone…

Seems legit, and they asked for 40 million only. I would have given more cos the pitch is the best

Re: Apple Said to Acquire Color

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Post by tjogin »

grey-area wrote: post #146
tjogin wrote: post #140

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Nothing Apple has ever done in the social context has ever reflected well on Apple's senior management. They survived Ping, they'll survive this. And it won't be a nailbiter. Wanna bet?

I'm sure they'll survive, and yes they don't have a good record on social and cloud stuff from mobile me to ping. But jumped the shark doesn't mean they'll go out of business this year or this decade, it just means they're at the start of a long slow decline in quality and are out of ideas - that won't stop them making lots of money though, in fact whether they make money and survive is not really related to whether…

So, whether they continue to break sales records and revenue and profit, or not, you are right either way? It's just a matter if you are really right, or tremendously right?

Re: Apple Said to Acquire Color

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Post by grey-area »

tjogin wrote: post #148
grey-area wrote: post #146

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm sure they'll survive, and yes they don't have a good record on social and cloud stuff from mobile me to ping. But jumped the shark doesn't mean they'll go out of business this year or this decade, it just means they're at the start of a long slow decline in quality and are out of ideas - that won't stop them making lots of money though, in fact whether they make money and survive is not really related to whether…

So, whether they continue to break sales records and revenue and profit, or not, you are right either way? It's just a matter if you are really right, or tremendously right?

I wasn't aware this was a points scoring exercise, frankly, who cares if I'm right? I was just pointing out that the original post was not related to Apple's financial performance, but was criticising their lack of direction and quality lately - those have a long lead time in relation to profits - they can coast for a very long time now on the reputation they have built up, and the loyal customers they have (just as MS has for the last decade).

You took jumped the shark to mean peaked in profits, I suspect the OP didn't mean it that way as it's normally used to refer to a decline in quality, that's all we disagree on.

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