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2025 was the third hottest year on record

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Re: 2025 was the third hottest year on record

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Post by linuxhansl »

With 2024 and 2023 being 2nd and 1st resp. The last 11 years were the hottest 11 in recorded history. I don't know how more evidence we need. We are standing on the train tracks, the train is coming, and many of us say "Oh just look over there instead, we'll be fine."

Meanwhile - even if you do not care about climate - there is so much money to make with renewables (production, storage, mobility, etc). China and much of the rest of the world are charging ahead, while the US wants to be a petrol state.

Re: 2025 was the third hottest year on record

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Post by CGMthrowaway »

__MatrixMan__ wrote: post #94
CGMthrowaway wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nobody has to "like" them. The centralized command and control structure is mostly in place to just force them down everyone's throats. Once we have centralized digital currency it will be a foregone conclusion

How will a centralized digital currency affect whether I decide to burn carbon fuels? If it gets obnoxious enough I can just use a different currency instead.

That is the point...you can't

Re: 2025 was the third hottest year on record

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Post by RickJWagner »

linuxhansl wrote: post #141

With 2024 and 2023 being 2nd and 1st resp. The last 11 years were the hottest 11 in recorded history. I don't know how more evidence we need. We are standing on the train tracks, the train is coming, and many of us say "Oh just look over there instead, we'll be fine." Meanwhile - even if you do not care about climate - there is so much money to make with renewables (production, storage, mobility, etc). China and much…

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Re: 2025 was the third hottest year on record

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Post by foltik »

genewitch wrote: post #107
mempko wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And what will you do with the raw data? Are you trained in processing and interpreting it? How good is your math?

you're right this is much to complicated and important for anyone to understand. just take our word for it that we have to make things more expensive, raise taxes, and restrict freedoms to fix it.

Right, if only scientists who understood it would publish some sort of document explaining their methods and citing the raw sources.

> we have to make things more expensive, raise taxes, and restrict freedoms to fix it

Aha, right on cue the mask slips off. Desperately trying to justify your own selfishness in the name of "freedom".

Re: 2025 was the third hottest year on record

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Post by cabirum »

RickJWagner wrote: post #144
linuxhansl wrote: post #141

With 2024 and 2023 being 2nd and 1st resp. The last 11 years were the hottest 11 in recorded history. I don't know how more evidence we need. We are standing on the train tracks, the train is coming, and many of us say "Oh just look over there instead, we'll be fine." Meanwhile - even if you do not care about climate - there is so much money to make with renewables (production, storage, mobility, etc). China and much…

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Who are "we"? China population is 4 times the US, with carbon emissions just 3 times greater, making them produce less carbon per capita.

Re: 2025 was the third hottest year on record

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Post by rmitsch »

linuxhansl wrote: post #141

With 2024 and 2023 being 2nd and 1st resp. The last 11 years were the hottest 11 in recorded history. I don't know how more evidence we need. We are standing on the train tracks, the train is coming, and many of us say "Oh just look over there instead, we'll be fine." Meanwhile - even if you do not care about climate - there is so much money to make with renewables (production, storage, mobility, etc). China and much…

There's no amount of evidence that'll help. We have had a sufficient amount of that for a long while. It's entrenched economic interests fostering a lack of political will that's keeping us from taking this seriously.

Re: 2025 was the third hottest year on record

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Post by ainiriand »

RickJWagner wrote: post #144
linuxhansl wrote: post #141

With 2024 and 2023 being 2nd and 1st resp. The last 11 years were the hottest 11 in recorded history. I don't know how more evidence we need. We are standing on the train tracks, the train is coming, and many of us say "Oh just look over there instead, we'll be fine." Meanwhile - even if you do not care about climate - there is so much money to make with renewables (production, storage, mobility, etc). China and much…

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I am still confused why this argument is still valid to anyone... Not only China has 4 times more population than the US, but they produce all the stuff that the US buys, so if the US had to produce all that stuff on their own they would emit so much more carbon.

Re: 2025 was the third hottest year on record

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Post by mmooss »

melling wrote: post #123
tmnvix wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My point is that in terms of personal responsibility nothing comes remotely close to driving but a vanishingly small proportion of people are willing to consider this.

A few decades ago we explained that personal responsibility isn’t the solution. Please catch up. Why we’re having a conversation from the year 2000 now is beyond me. I also suggest reviewing the “nuclear isn’t part of the solution. Besides it takes a decade” discussion.

> A few decades ago we explained that personal responsibility isn’t the solution.

I've never seen that argued persuasively. All the arguments I've seen are the usual hopelessness for democracy, lack of agency, and victimhood.

Lots of people acting in the same way is the foundation of democracy.

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