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Anthropic Explicitly Blocking OpenCode

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Re: Anthropic Explicitly Blocking OpenCode

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Post by jb_briant »

gpm wrote: post #125
dwaltrip wrote: post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What makes it predatory?

The Claude subscription (i.e. the pro and max plans, not the API) is sold at what appears to be well below cost in what appears to be a blatant attempt to preserve/create market dominance for claude code, destroying competitors by making it impossible to compete without also having a war chest of money to give away.

Now dig into copilot plus and how they price the premium requests. The math is not mathing, they are aggressively trying to capture the market.

Re: Anthropic Explicitly Blocking OpenCode

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Post by dns_snek »

paxys wrote: post #22

Meh, if you want access to the API then pay for the API. It's as simple as that.

This level of hypocrisy is comical. Exploiting the pricing gap between API usage and subscription leads to vastly increased efficiency and productivity therefore it needs to be legally protected. That's the argument when it comes to LLM training and copyright.

Re: Anthropic Explicitly Blocking OpenCode

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Post by [deleted] »

Analemma_ wrote: post #81
jjallen wrote: post #64

This is definitely Barbara Streisanding right now. I had never heard of OpenCode. But I sure have now! Will have to check it out. Doubt I’ll end up immediately canceling Claude Code Max, but we’ll see.

OpenCode is kind of a security disaster though: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46581095 . To be clear, I know all software has bugs, including security bugs. But that wasn't an obscure vulnerability, that was "our entire dev team fundamentally has no fucking clue what they're doing, and our security reporting and triage process is nonexistent". No way am I entrusting production code and secrets to that.

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Re: Anthropic Explicitly Blocking OpenCode

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Post by auguzanellato »

lumost wrote: post #83
gpm wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They may however be obligated to not give customers access to their services at a discounted rate either - predatory pricing is at least some of the time and in some jurisdictions illegal.

Claude code is so successful that they could silence the api to protect the moat. I’m surprised they didn’t go with the option of offering opus 4.6 to Claude code only.

That’s what OpenAI is doing with GPT-5.2-Codex

Re: Anthropic Explicitly Blocking OpenCode

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Post by indigodaddy »

digiown wrote: post #88
Aurornis wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t know if the Streisand Effect is relevant here since Anthropic will block any other uses of their private APIs, not just OpenCode. The private Claude Code API was never advertised nor sold as a general purpose API for use with any tool. OpenCode is an interesting tool but if this is your first time hearing of it you should probably be aware of their recent unauthenticated RCE issues and the slow response they’…

Imo I don't trust ANY of these tools to run in non-isolated environments. All of these tools are either - created by companies powered by VC money that never face consequences for mishandling your data - community vibecoded with questionable security practices These tools also need to have a substantial amount of access to be useful so it is really hard to secure even if you try. Constantly prompting for approval lea…

I'm trying to put together an exe.dev-like self hosted solution using Incus/LXC. Early days but works as a proof of concept:

https://github.com/jgbrwn/shelley-lxc

Re: Anthropic Explicitly Blocking OpenCode

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Post by theshrike79 »

This is exactly like an opensource project called OpenVideo would pretend to be a Netflix/Prime/HBO/AppleTV+ client and allowing access to content that way, skipping the official clients.

Then they get angry when their use is blocked.

Only in this case they can 100% use the service via a paid API.

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Post by vntok »

mastermage wrote: post #138
skeledrew wrote: post #120

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Scraped != stolen.

LOL No if you didn't have explicit permision to use it for Training, you didn't have permission this is called stealing.

Nonsense. Copying is not theft, this debate was solved 25+ years ago!

Have you seen the "you wouldn't steal a car" ads? Or this video? https://youtu.be/IeTybKL1pM4?si=utZ5KjmK-C2-fFdP

Re: Anthropic Explicitly Blocking OpenCode

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Post by JeremyNT »

indigodaddy wrote: post #145
digiown wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Imo I don't trust ANY of these tools to run in non-isolated environments. All of these tools are either - created by companies powered by VC money that never face consequences for mishandling your data - community vibecoded with questionable security practices These tools also need to have a substantial amount of access to be useful so it is really hard to secure even if you try. Constantly prompting for approval lea…

I'm trying to put together an exe.dev-like self hosted solution using Incus/LXC. Early days but works as a proof of concept: https://github.com/jgbrwn/shelley-lxc

Incus is great for this use case, I did something similar. I volume mount specific stuff into the guests and let OpenCode loose with all tools enabled.

I used OpenCode to vibe code the shell script I use to manage it.

I actually use VMs rather than LXC, which makes it easier to run e.g. docker.

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