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How London cracked mobile phone coverage on the Underground

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Re: How London cracked mobile phone coverage on the Underground

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Post by knorker »

It makes me sick to see London bragging about this. This is last century technology, and other cities managed to retrofit this just fine, including of course using leaky cable in the tunnels.

That it took 20-30 years longer than everyone else is through absolute incompetence and mismanagement. It would have been in place at least 10 years ago if they hadn't screwed up the RFP that Huawei won.

And it's not even shared infra! Vodafone is WAY behind the other networks.

I have worked with these things. There's no valid excuse for being 20-30 years behind on this.

And it's still not landed! By the time it finally gets to all stations I wouldn't be surprised if it's 40-50 years behind everyone else.

Re: How London cracked mobile phone coverage on the Underground

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Post by PaulDavisThe1st »

zipy124 wrote: post #134
hotstickyballs wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That directly goes against the earlier post where you said you lived in a particularly nice part of town

London has a very high ratio of extremely nice houses on a road opposite council houses, or former council houses. There can often be a very large mix of housing in one area.

It seems to me to be quite the feature ... well, everywhere except the USA. Certainly all over Europe, one finds this mix. In the USA, you generally only find cheap/low quality/small housing stock adjacent to expensive/high quality/large housing stock where there's some municipal or other border, and the two just can't avoid being where they are.

Re: How London cracked mobile phone coverage on the Underground

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Post by hdgvhicv »

traceroute66 wrote: post #133
hdgvhicv wrote: post #102

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Certainly people would do that. And sending text messages in the 00s. People have been wearing headphones while commuting for a generation, and (not on the underground but certainly on trains) people in the 80s and 90s were far more obnoxious - get stuck on a busy train between people having conversations about inane stuff while smoking. Public transport is far better today than it was 30 years ago, annoyances are fa…

> Public transport is far better today than it was 30 years ago One exception. Give me the Routemaster bus back. The real ones, not the Boris ones. Those who know, know. ;)

They were objectively terrible

The only benefit was the ability to jump on and off away from bus stops. If you had any kind of mobility issue they were awful, and even if you didn’t they were still far more camped than a modern bus.

Re: How London cracked mobile phone coverage on the Underground

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Post by teleforce »

ChrisMarshallNY wrote: post #142

In Japan, mobile works everywhere. Not exactly sure how they do it, but you could use phones on trains, last century.

> In Japan, mobile works everywhere

Yes Japan has the best mobile wireless coverage bar none, but not everywhere.

Based on my experiences there's significant blind spot of mobile wireless coverage along the way from Fukuoka station to Iizuka.

Thanks to the OP excellent article.

Re: How London cracked mobile phone coverage on the Underground

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Post by LightBug1 »

immibis wrote: post #97
LightBug1 wrote: post #74

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Really? What do you mean?

They mean more immigrants live in certain neighbourhoods.

I've not noticed that correlation at all. I just wanted to see who was brave enough to actually speak their racism or whether they'd just suggest it in a cowardly way.

Re: How London cracked mobile phone coverage on the Underground

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Post by youngtaff »

master-lincoln wrote: post #117
youngtaff wrote: post #78

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Ten of so years ago I was on a train and the women opposite me gave all her credit card details to someone over the phone — anyone close by could have had fun with them

Is that still a thing in the USA that you can buy with just a credit card number, validity date, name and 3 digit code? In the EU we have psd2 mandating a second factor. Usually an app where the transaction has to be confirmed.

This was in the UK, before 2FA was more common for Cardholders not Present transactions

Re: How London cracked mobile phone coverage on the Underground

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Post by hexbin010 »

wolvoleo wrote: post #28
hexbin010 wrote: post #23

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That also creates a problem that people then can not hear important announcements or be aware of dangers (such as knife wielding attackers, as happened on an LNER train just late last year)

You can still hear those things, just not obnoxiously loudly. NC works best against static sounds. Speech still makes it through. Just not as loud. If you're in a busy car enough people will hear it to be aware, and if you're on your own you will hear the announcement clearly. Besides it's really a one in 10 million chance you'll get stabbed on the metro, not worth worrying about. The chance of getting hit by a car i…

Don't lecture me in a condescending manner. I'm British, I've taken the train all my life, and for years have worn NC headphones to counter the incessant announcements and anti social behaviour. I also have to my play my own music to drown it out

Also: generalising about Europeans is quite ignorant. As is ignoring recent data and recent risks and just citing long term data to insinuate people are being hysterical

Re: How London cracked mobile phone coverage on the Underground

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Post by drnick1 »

ceejayoz wrote: post #105
hotstickyballs wrote: post #96

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That directly goes against the earlier post where you said you lived in a particularly nice part of town

There are a good number of places in the world where people of varied incomes live relatively close.

I am not sure why you would want that however.

Re: How London cracked mobile phone coverage on the Underground

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Post by drnick1 »

maleldil wrote: post #120
dgxyz wrote: post #86

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Urgh hyperoptic is dog shit as well. CGNAT or pay extra on top of already insulting prices.

I feel like I'm going crazy. Hyperoptic is fine. I pay 40 quid for gigabit, and it's stable and fast.

Unless you want to self-host things, in which case CGNAT is a non-starter.
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