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Re: Anthropic: Developing a Claude Code competitor using Claude Code is banned

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or you just do it and be in the EU it's a clear anti-competive clause by a dominant market leader, such clauses tend to be void AFIK

Who is the dominant market leader? OpenAI dwarfs Anthropic. Most people still haven’t heard of Anthropic/Claude. (For the record, I use Claude code all day long. But it’s still pretty niche outside of programming.)

We are discussing Claude Code clones - the market _is_ programming

Re: Anthropic: Developing a Claude Code competitor using Claude Code is banned

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As of yesterday OpenAI seems to explicitly allow opencode on their subscription plans.

can you point me to this claim? also last i checked trying to connect to OpenAI seems to prompt for an API key, does openAI's API key make use of the subscription quota? just wanted to make sure before I sign up for a openAI sub

https://github.com/anomalyco/opencode/releases/tag/v1.1.11

it was just added in v1.1.1

Re: Anthropic: Developing a Claude Code competitor using Claude Code is banned

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he may not be entirely correct, but Claude Code plans are significantly better than the API plan, 100$ plan may not be as cost effective but for 18$ you can get like 5x usage of the API plan.

I've seen dozens of "experts" all over the internet claim that they're "subsidizing costs" with the coding plans despite no evidence whatsoever. Despite the fact that various sources from OpenAI, Deepseek, model inference providers have suggested the contrary, that inference is very profitable with very high margins.

Just looking at my own usage at work, we’re spending around $50/day on OpenAI API credits (with Codex). With Claude Code I get higher usage limits for $200/month, or around $8/day. Probably the equivalent from OpenAI is around $100/day of API credits.

Maybe OpenAI has a 12x markup on API credits, or Anthropic is much better at running inference, but my best guess is that Anthropic is selling at a large loss.

Re: Anthropic: Developing a Claude Code competitor using Claude Code is banned

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As long as I have a Claude subscription, why do they care what harness I use to access their very profitable token inference business?

Because your subscription depends on the very API business. Anthropic's cogs is rent of buying x amount of h100s. cost of a marginal query for them is almost zero until the batch fills up and they need a new cluster. So, API clusters are usually built for peak load with low utilization (filled batch) at any given time. Given AI's peak demand is extremely spiky they end up with low utilization numbers for API support.…

If Anthropic can't use a really simple API separation and rate-limit only one it's really on them.

Re: Anthropic: Developing a Claude Code competitor using Claude Code is banned

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post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

or you just do it and be in the EU it's a clear anti-competive clause by a dominant market leader, such clauses tend to be void AFIK

Who is the dominant market leader? OpenAI dwarfs Anthropic. Most people still haven’t heard of Anthropic/Claude. (For the record, I use Claude code all day long. But it’s still pretty niche outside of programming.)

Those are different markets

Re: Anthropic: Developing a Claude Code competitor using Claude Code is banned

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I'm taking this more as a "pricing" change. Like, if you pay 200$ then you can use inference only in these limited scopes. If you want more unrestricted access to inference, use the API token pricing.

Which, seems fine? They could've just not offered the 200$ plan and perhaps nobody would've complained. They tried it, noticed it being unsustainable, so they're trying to remodel it to it _is_ sustainable.

I think the upset is misplaced. :shrug:

Re: Anthropic: Developing a Claude Code competitor using Claude Code is banned

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Opencode is much better anyway and it doesnt change its workflow every couple weeks.

I like how I can cycle through agents in OpenCode using tab. In CC all my messages get interpreted by the "main" agent; so summoning a specific agent still wastes main agent's tokens. In OpenCode, I can tab and suddenly I'm talking to a different agent; no more "main agent" bs.

Maybe not quite as simple but you can save and /resume lots of sessions in CC and switch between them quickly.
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