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Re: Stop Doom Scrolling, Start Doom Coding: Build via the terminal from your phone

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Post by godelski »

zahlman wrote: post #66

Historically I had thought there was a pendulum swing between using local computing resources vs. having a dumb terminal to access something remotely. But now instead of swinging back to local resources, apparently we're proposing to add a second layer of remote access (phone -> computer -> Claude servers).

In the last 5 years I pretty much fully migrated to my laptop being a terminal for other machines. I more use it like a local machine in HPC: web browsing, word processing, scripting. Anything serious is done remotely. But I also live in the terminal and so realistically what's the difference? 99% of the time the result is that I get to use a "big" computer without having to carry it around.

FWIW, I'm not a big fan of AI coding. I use AI (including LLMs) and I am an AI researcher, but the vibe coding just hasn't clicked despite constant efforts. I guess it can make more sense to do it if you're programming from your phone because while normally typing isn't the bottleneck it definitely is on the phone (or at least far less comfortable)

Re: Stop Doom Scrolling, Start Doom Coding: Build via the terminal from your phone

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Post by cess11 »

PopePompus wrote: post #99
chankstein38 wrote: post #20

If you're on Android and can download QPython, it works just fine and has for years. This seems way overcomplicated, it depends on a remote computer that's on 24/7? Ick.

Also, if your Android phone is a Pixel, you can run the recently added Terminal app, which runs a plain vanilla Debian distribution within a VM. So you then have a pocketable Linux machine to develop code on. Not only does Python run on it, you can install the entire Anaconda Python suite.

Why would that be preferable to Termux?

Re: Stop Doom Scrolling, Start Doom Coding: Build via the terminal from your phone

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Post by harlanlewis »

radlad wrote: post #120
LTL_FTC wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have read of people doing remote coding with clause but through having Claude create pull request. The user then looks through the requests, and either approves or sends it back with edits. Seems like a good way to interact with Claude code, especially once one sets up a test suite and those proposed pull requests have proven not to regress.

This pretty much sounds like my dream vibe coding dashboard - basically a personal Github populated by AI agents I can assign tasks to. Does this exist yet? Or can something like gitea be setup to behave this way?

In terms of issue tracking and agentic "developers", with a mobile focus -

You can connect Linear to Cursor's web agent, which makes Linear issues assignable to the agent directly and kicks off Cursor's take on remote coding agent. You can then guide it further via Cursor's web chat.

If Claude Code on iOS supported Linear MCP (as it does on desktop), you can run a similar issue handoff to agent to issue update workflow, albeit without direct issue assignment to the agent "user". Easy to use labels aka tags for agent assignment tracking, as well.

For my hobby projects, I've been using Linear + agentFlavorOfTheMonth quite happily this way. I imagine Github issues, Asana, whatever could be wired up in place of Linear.

Re: Stop Doom Scrolling, Start Doom Coding: Build via the terminal from your phone

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Post by Flere-Imsaho »

analogpixel wrote: post #39

So this is the 4th+ article I've seen on using a VPN to vibe code on your phone. Would an email interface to Claude code work better? - Email Claude to start the coding - Claude emails you with any thing it needs acked on. - you reply back to emails telling it what to do. - maybe Claude can run your program and send back screen shots. seems easier then getting a vpn working. What is the downside to using email?

Email might work, however if you're a Telegram user you could write a bot that runs on your home system that runs the cli commands on your behalf and then sends the output as a response to you. No need to open up any ports on your router.

Re: Stop Doom Scrolling, Start Doom Coding: Build via the terminal from your phone

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Post by fragmede »

godelski wrote: post #136
runjake wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Would an email interface to Claude code work better? No. > What is the downside to using email? Email is clunky and feedback is not immediate. > seems easier then getting a vpn working. Tailscale is easy for a dev to get going and very reliable. The author uses the Termius SSH app with Mosh, so it keeps the same SSH session going across device sleeps and disconnects. Tmux is helpful, too. I do exactly what the auth…

While I don't use the AI part I have a very similar scheme and it is one of the reasons I encourage people to live in the terminal. The idea is to create a modern "terminal"[0] My main computer is a Macbook Air, which I carry around with me. It's purpose is for: internet, using Microsoft products when I'm forced to, Zoom/meetings, and SSH (or Mosh). Most of my work is not done on this Macbook, instead I use it mostly…

If you've got a Mac in the mix, you should be aware that it can use an Apple TV as a monitor, so you can have a wireless extended desktop to anything that takes HDMI.

Re: Stop Doom Scrolling, Start Doom Coding: Build via the terminal from your phone

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Post by fragmede »

radlad wrote: post #120
LTL_FTC wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have read of people doing remote coding with clause but through having Claude create pull request. The user then looks through the requests, and either approves or sends it back with edits. Seems like a good way to interact with Claude code, especially once one sets up a test suite and those proposed pull requests have proven not to regress.

This pretty much sounds like my dream vibe coding dashboard - basically a personal Github populated by AI agents I can assign tasks to. Does this exist yet? Or can something like gitea be setup to behave this way?

Gastown, by Steve Yeggs is that, via tmux. It's rather opinionated and still in development, but it's worth a look if that's what you're looking for.

Re: Stop Doom Scrolling, Start Doom Coding: Build via the terminal from your phone

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Post by zahlman »

godelski wrote: post #141
zahlman wrote: post #66

Historically I had thought there was a pendulum swing between using local computing resources vs. having a dumb terminal to access something remotely. But now instead of swinging back to local resources, apparently we're proposing to add a second layer of remote access (phone -> computer -> Claude servers).

In the last 5 years I pretty much fully migrated to my laptop being a terminal for other machines. I more use it like a local machine in HPC: web browsing, word processing, scripting. Anything serious is done remotely. But I also live in the terminal and so realistically what's the difference? 99% of the time the result is that I get to use a "big" computer without having to carry it around. FWIW, I'm not a big fan o…

My desktop is 11 years old, but I still feel like it does so much that I wouldn't want any cloud services except for AI. (And there's no way this thing would handle a useful local model, but I'm also really not very enthused about the kind of data sharing involved in remote AI use.)

Re: Stop Doom Scrolling, Start Doom Coding: Build via the terminal from your phone

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Post by godelski »

zahlman wrote: post #148
godelski wrote: post #141

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the last 5 years I pretty much fully migrated to my laptop being a terminal for other machines. I more use it like a local machine in HPC: web browsing, word processing, scripting. Anything serious is done remotely. But I also live in the terminal and so realistically what's the difference? 99% of the time the result is that I get to use a "big" computer without having to carry it around. FWIW, I'm not a big fan o…

My desktop is 11 years old, but I still feel like it does so much that I wouldn't want any cloud services except for AI. (And there's no way this thing would handle a useful local model, but I'm also really not very enthused about the kind of data sharing involved in remote AI use.)

I mean the power of the work machine really depends on what your needs are. Definitely should adapt to whatever your needs are.

  > And there's no way this thing would handle a useful local model
So if you have a setup like mine then it is fairly trivial to incorporate that (or anything else). Either way you'll need a machine that can do the local AI though. Either that is on your "work machine" or you run the AI on a separate machine. You could even rent a machine and as long as you add it to your Tailscale network then you're connected.

I strongly suggest having a workhorse machine and then let other devices be your terminal into it. Your terminals can be very cheap (or an old machine) or as suggested, your phone.

Re: Stop Doom Scrolling, Start Doom Coding: Build via the terminal from your phone

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Post by godelski »

fragmede wrote: post #146
godelski wrote: post #136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While I don't use the AI part I have a very similar scheme and it is one of the reasons I encourage people to live in the terminal. The idea is to create a modern "terminal"[0] My main computer is a Macbook Air, which I carry around with me. It's purpose is for: internet, using Microsoft products when I'm forced to, Zoom/meetings, and SSH (or Mosh). Most of my work is not done on this Macbook, instead I use it mostly…

If you've got a Mac in the mix, you should be aware that it can use an Apple TV as a monitor, so you can have a wireless extended desktop to anything that takes HDMI.

Are there any benefits besides a nice GUI? I'm fairly comfortable with my linux desktop as an interface. TBH the most frustrating part is the iPhone shortcut app I made which I strongly believe is less about me and more than Apple is actively trying to be annoying (I recently had an update that required a minor change because the dictionaries in Shortcuts is idiotic)

Also, I heard that you can install Tailscale on it[0], so that can act as a gateway which is nice.

[0] https://tailscale.com/kb/1280/appletv

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