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AWS raises GPU prices 15% on a Saturday, hopes you weren't paying attention

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Re: AWS raises GPU prices 15% on a Saturday, hopes you weren't paying attention

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Post by alecco »

xvxvx wrote: post #12

- GPU prices rising - RAM prices rising - hard drive prices rising Are we looking at a future where home computers are replaced by thin clients and all the power lies in subscription services? ‘You don't need storage space, use our cloud subscription’ ‘You don’t need processing power, stream your games through our subscription service.’ Game publishers have already publicly floated the idea of not selling their games…

You forgot:

- while Big Tech is subsidized with our taxes

- and even if you get a GPU it will be too expensive to run it due to electricity costs (thanks to Big Tech)

- and most people end up working for Big Tech's gig economy without any benefits at below subsistence

Re: AWS raises GPU prices 15% on a Saturday, hopes you weren't paying attention

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Post by haritha-j »

adamtulinius wrote: post #43
haritha-j wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From a resource allocation perspective, this doesn't feel particularly undesirable, at least in terms of certain assets like vehicles. The current system of ownership is quite wasteful. I own a high end GPU that I use maybe 4 hours a week for gaming.

Can we please not kid ourselves with thoughts about how this being good from certain perspectives, when the development is _clearly_ bad for consumers?

I do agree with the negatives, but at the same time, I do see some upside. I live in a cycling city, and need to rent a car maybe once a year. why then should I bother myself with the annoyances of vehicle ownership?

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Post by dev1ycan »

xvxvx wrote: post #12

- GPU prices rising - RAM prices rising - hard drive prices rising Are we looking at a future where home computers are replaced by thin clients and all the power lies in subscription services? ‘You don't need storage space, use our cloud subscription’ ‘You don’t need processing power, stream your games through our subscription service.’ Game publishers have already publicly floated the idea of not selling their games…

This was always the plan, it's why they keep building datacenters when they know it's a bubble, they just plan to do GeForce NOW on steroids, this time with PCs costing $10k so nobody can afford it.

Re: AWS raises GPU prices 15% on a Saturday, hopes you weren't paying attention

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Post by andruby »

cj wrote: post #68
xvxvx wrote: post #12

- GPU prices rising - RAM prices rising - hard drive prices rising Are we looking at a future where home computers are replaced by thin clients and all the power lies in subscription services? ‘You don't need storage space, use our cloud subscription’ ‘You don’t need processing power, stream your games through our subscription service.’ Game publishers have already publicly floated the idea of not selling their games…

For Christmas I got an alarm clock that basically doesn’t function without a $50/year subscription. For an alarm clock (Hatch.co). Consumers need to get better at understanding TCO when buying things. Or maybe the government should be slapping those “annual cost” stickers like they do on washing machines to understand how much electricity they use.

That's a terrible gift! Did the g(r)ifter know it needed such a subscription?

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Post by XorNot »

kakacik wrote: post #95
XorNot wrote: post #38

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If capitalism prices me out of owning property, then I've not much use for it.

Trust me, losing freedom you most probably consider as basic as air we breathe since your birth will stop such petty worries. And no system would give you property just because it would be nice, neither did communism (I know since I grew up in it and saw its destruction of everything good first hand - it had to be bought for non-trivial money with good old mortgages, and only regime-aligned people could).

The spectrum of possible civic organization is not binary, and is not capitalism and communism in opposition.

Though the insinuation of such is routinely used to justify the ongoing stratification of wealth, and corruption of government.

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Post by thrance »

fzeroracer wrote: post #110
haritha-j wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From a resource allocation perspective, this doesn't feel particularly undesirable, at least in terms of certain assets like vehicles. The current system of ownership is quite wasteful. I own a high end GPU that I use maybe 4 hours a week for gaming.

I'm not sure if you're doing this intentionally or not, but it is incredibly funny to see people on HN doing what is effectively manufacturing consent for people to not actually own anything. We've gone from home computing is the future to no one should own a computer because it's wasteful. I'm not sure where this sentiment even comes from but if the economy only consists of renters and landlords then we don't even h…

Capitalism was never about owning things. It's about accumulating capital (hence the name), and renting stuff is more profitable than selling stuff.

Re: AWS raises GPU prices 15% on a Saturday, hopes you weren't paying attention

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Post by SketchySeaBeast »

TrackerFF wrote: post #126
dangus wrote: post #119

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But if you finance the computer (not hard to get 0% financing on consumer electronics), the price goes from $41 a month to $62 a month. It’s the same difference.

For whatever reason, people are just more into paying for $10 / subscription fees, than they into financing stuff. To such a degree that they able to pay for a bunch of subscriptions they completely forget about.

The mental model of subscriptions and financing are totally different. If I'm paying a subscription I might cancel next month, and that's a sort of freedom. If I'm financing a piece of hardware I don't want to stop paying, I want that hardware, so that's a commitment.

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Post by layer8 »

SPICLK2 wrote: post #79
xvxvx wrote: post #12

- GPU prices rising - RAM prices rising - hard drive prices rising Are we looking at a future where home computers are replaced by thin clients and all the power lies in subscription services? ‘You don't need storage space, use our cloud subscription’ ‘You don’t need processing power, stream your games through our subscription service.’ Game publishers have already publicly floated the idea of not selling their games…

>home computers are replaced by thin clients Ah, but that's the genius of this circuit around the tech cycle. You need a "thick client" to access those subscription services, as running the (web) interface requires shameful amounts of RAM and CPU resources.

Maybe it will incentivize the introduction of more reasonable browser technology. /s

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Post by dev1ycan »

pjc50 wrote: post #100
pm90 wrote: post #51

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Its a market signal; we’re going to see a massive boom in investment (mostly from China, but still) in capacity expansion. Eventually the prices will stabilize.

At this process node, China (PRC) doesn't have significant capacity, it's all in China (ROC) or as we know it: Taiwan. China native DRAM production is similarly behind, but catching up: https://telecom.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/devices/cx...

China just needs to produce 3080s/3090 cards (which they are capable of doing given enough investment) and they can supply the gaming market for 95% of its needs

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Post by mejutoco »

05 wrote: post #77
walthamstow wrote: post #21

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> You don't need storage space, use our cloud subscription This is here already. A long time ago, maybe even before covid, I asked a table of iPhone-owning friends who pays Apple a monthly sub for storage, and every hand went up. I know you mention home computers, but most of my friends don't have one. Their iPhone is their computer.

You tell me how to automatically sync photos across iOS+mac devices using non-Apple services. I'll wait. (hint: it's a monopoly, you can't use other services). Yeah, I know you can do a manual backup to e.g. Google Photos. It's not the same as seamless bidirectional sync.

Dropbox works also. It would be cool if one could do it via usb like other phones before.
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