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HSBC blocks its app due to F-Droid-installed Bitwarden

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Re: HSBC blocks its app due to F-Droid-installed Bitwarden

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Not to sound cynical, but what's to stop these officials from picking non-multinational regional bank?

You can't have a credit card which makes your life miserable in the modern world even if you can find a bank : Visa, Master Card, Amex are all American.

Europe used to have its own system, but it merged with Mastercard in 2002.

These days however the focus has moved to digital payments, and Europe is now backing Wero, which they aim to start rolling out properly in 2026.

Re: HSBC blocks its app due to F-Droid-installed Bitwarden

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I recently came across Open Web Advocacy (OWA) who summarize my mobile-platform concerns well. They "advocate for the future of the open web by providing regulators, legislators and policy makers the intricate technical details that they need to understand the major anti-competitive issues in our industry and how to solve them."

Their top 3 priorities:

1. Apple's ban of third party browsers on iOS is deeply anti-competitive

2. Web Apps need to become just Apps. Apps built with the free and open web need equal treatment and integration. Closed and heavily taxed proprietary ecosystems should not receive any preference.

3. All artificial barriers placed by gatekeepers must be removed. Web Apps if allowed can offer equivalent functionality with greater privacy and security for demanding use-cases.

Website: https://open-web-advocacy.org/en/

Re: HSBC blocks its app due to F-Droid-installed Bitwarden

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> HSBC picked a level that causes this. Google manages the blacklist of apps What is Google's rationale for flagging Bitwarden?

They flag "sideloading" - or anything installed by anything outside of their store. They don't always flag it. Only when SafeNet is set to paranoid levels. However, sideloading is considered a risk for some reason. Even if sideloading is a synonym for "installing".

What if you install the app via adb install? That would flag all developers' phones so I'm almost sure it's not flagged.

Re: HSBC blocks its app due to F-Droid-installed Bitwarden

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can't wait for digital euro

https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/press/press-releases/2025...

https://www.ecb.europa.eu/press/key/date/2025/html/ecb.sp251...

i hope it will be part of the digital wallet initiative: https://github.com/eu-digital-identity-wallet

there is an active discussion there on NOT integrating play integrity API or any other US-dependent remote attestation: https://github.com/eu-digital-identity-wallet/av-doc-technic...

Re: HSBC blocks its app due to F-Droid-installed Bitwarden

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Yeah, moving here involved basically buying a plane ticket, and, after I got here, booking an appointment to get a National Insurance number (basically equivalent to an American Social Security number). Never occurred to me that moving to any other EU country might be harder than that.

> Never occurred to me that moving to any other EU country might be harder than that. I don't think it is? I moved to Spain from other EU country the same way, basically bought the cheapest one-way plane ticket I could find, spent ~1 month here before deciding I wanted to live here, then got myself the local residence card one morning and that's about it. Everything else just worked by using my passport in the meanti…

No, it is significantly more difficult in other EU countries, yes.

Here in Finland for example the process is actually no different than for a non-EU migrant (same amount of time taken for an unproblematic application, same amount of appointments). You are just much more likely to be accepted but in fact they do still reserve the right to reject people. And it is, probably unintentionally, much harder to exist in Finland as a non-resident as you can't have a bank account, can't use foreign phone numbers for most things and any phone you can get is very limited (can't call many numbers, etc). I couldn't even log into the local eBay for the first 6 months. All the Nordics I would guess are similar.

And people have contested in the comments to you that Spain is not actually so easy as you suggested...

I actually don't know any western country that is as easy to move to as the UK was pre-Brexit. I still think the UK is in fact one of the easier Western countries to move to, especially if you can't find moderately paid work

Countries with a national id system I would guess tend to be more difficult overall though. And the UK famously is not one of those.

Re: HSBC blocks its app due to F-Droid-installed Bitwarden

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You can't have a credit card which makes your life miserable in the modern world even if you can find a bank : Visa, Master Card, Amex are all American.

Financial sovereignty is one of the reasons India went with its own RuPay ( https://www.rupay.co.in/credit-cards ) credit cards.

Russia after starting aggressive war against Ukraine quickly deployed own version of payment system. And it has been working much better than Visa/Madtercards with much more straightforward integration with online services and very intuitive apps. Russian people who moved from Russia as refugees or just to escape mobilization or prosecution have found banking system in EU/UK/US are rather unsmooth to put it mildly.

Re: HSBC blocks its app due to F-Droid-installed Bitwarden

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That's Google's SafeNet. HSBC picked a level that causes this. Google manages the blacklist of apps. We are rapidly losing our freedoms to the will of these companies. If they decide they don't want to they can even if the law doesn't forbid it. People in Switzerland and the EU are being de-banked by local banks because of US pressure allowing them to force any bank that wants to use USD. The US has started to sancti…

> and the EU are being de-banked by local banks because of US pressure allowing them to force any bank that wants to use USD What is this about? I'm a EU citizen, never heard about any EU citizen getting removed from any EU bank because of USD. Nor have I heard anyone being sanctioned by the US in the EU unless they're Russia-related somehow. Is there any link to a story about this?

It's on HN front page right now https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2025/11/19/n...

Unpaywalled link https://archive.is/20251203115217/https://www.lemonde.fr/en/...

Re: HSBC blocks its app due to F-Droid-installed Bitwarden

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You're the one advocating to help people whom not even their neighbours who share the same religion want nothing to do with it so I think you're the one who's joking

Just looking at the punctuation here makes it easy to guess you're fuming. No rational arguments, twisting the narration, moving goalposts and then frustrated because it doesn't work here, on HN. You might want to find another outlet for that, why kick up the blood pressure this much?

Some people need the $7,000.
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